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Super insightful chat—love how they dive deep into cool ideas, totally worth a listen!

interesting how both Chinese and Western views aligned on his influence, that says a lot about his power at the time.

Li Hongzhang is way more complex than the simple labels we usually see.

He’s such a complex figure—this episode breaks all my old stereotypes about him.

We shouldn’t judge historical figures only by the treaties they signed. His efforts to reform and strengthen the country are also part of the truth.

Thought-provoking take on Li Hongzhang’s complex historical role.

It’s intriguing to view Li Hongzhang as the real ruler of late Qing China, far more than just a court official.

Li Hongzhang is hard to define simply. He was both a loyal reformer and a controversial figure in turbulent times.

He dominated late Qing’s politics and diplomacy deeply!

He bore huge pressure in the declining Qing Dynasty.

You can totally feel the impossible pressure he faced in the late Qing Dynasty; his choices weren’t just black or white, but tied to a messy, collapsing era.

Li Hongzhang is often regarded as the pillar of politics, diplomacy, and industry of the late Qing Dynasty. Put another way, in the eyes of many Chinese and Westerners at that time, he was the one who truly governed China.
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Put down that lengthy history book spanning thousands of years and instead follow the “Makers and Shakers of Chinese History” podcast, which presents the biographies of 20 historic figures who shaped the course of ancient China. Meet the most renowned ancient Chinese rulers, ministers, thinkers, scientists, poets, and rebels, and find out how they continue to influence the Chinese to this day.

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