Moving to a new country or city sounds exciting—but beneath the beauty, there's often a quiet mix of loneliness, disorientation, redefinition, and deep growth.
In this episode, I sit down with my friend Alice to talk about our personal stories of moving—across countries, languages, and inner landscapes.
She shares her journey from Italy to China, and then from Shanghai to Paris. And I share how travel has slowly redefined my understanding of “freedom” and “home.”
We talk about cultural shifts, emotional transitions, building new friendships, and what it means to make peace with change—not just in our surroundings, but in ourselves.
If you're in a season of transition, may this episode be a small echo back to your heart.
第四通来电|迁徙、改变与家的意义
搬去一个新的国家、城市,开启一段新生活,听起来很浪漫。但浪漫的背后,也常常伴随着孤独、混乱、重塑、挣扎与成长。
在这一集里,我邀请朋友Alice一起聊聊我们各自“搬家”的故事。她从意大利到中国,再从上海搬到巴黎——一路迁徙,一路找寻自己。而我也分享了我在旅途中对“自由”和“家的意义”的重新理解。
我们聊到文化差异、孤独感、社交的变化、生活方式的转变,还有我们如何从一座城市迁徙到另一座城市,再从一个版本的自己走向另一个更真实的自己。
这是一封写给每一个正走在“过渡期”的你的小小回响。
00:00|开场:从“动起来”的邀请谈起
00:00|Opening: The Inner Call to Move
01:42|Alice 的迁徙轨迹:意大利→中国→巴黎
01:42|Alice’s Journey: From Italy to China to Paris
06:24|意大利的慢 vs 中国的快
06:24|Italy’s Slowness vs. China’s Speed
09:59|为什么搬家:内心的不快乐和“七年之痒”
09:59|Why Move? Burnout, Boredom, and the “Seven-Year Itch”
14:00|巴黎初期的孤独与低谷
14:00|The Lonely Beginning in Paris
19:48|社交方式的转变与重新认识朋友
19:48|Redefining Friendship in a New Culture
26:34|浪漫、自由与文化差异
26:34|Romance, Freedom & the Subtle Culture Gap
29:35|外界评价 vs 内在自由:心态的转变
29:35|External Validation vs. Internal Freedom
36:46|找到属于自己的节奏与自我角色
36:46|Finding Your Rhythm and Role in a New Place
39:31|什么是真正的“归属感”?
39:31|What Does Belonging Really Mean?
42:03|家的定义:哪里能安心落脚,哪里就是家
42:03|What Makes a Place Feel Like Home?
44:16|面对改变,我们需要多少勇气?
44:16|How Much Courage Does Change Take?
45:53|结尾互动:你的改变邀请来自哪里?
45:53|Closing Reflection: Where Are You Being Invited to Move?
Special Thanks to Alice Wanderland
Post Production: Darian
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最近,有没有一个“想动起来”的感觉,正在你心里慢慢长大?
是想换城市?换生活方式?还是,只是想和过去的自己说再见?
欢迎留言告诉我,你正在经历的“转变邀请”是什么。
它来自哪里?又把你往哪里推?
Is there a quiet invitation to change growing inside you lately?
Maybe to move cities, shift your lifestyle, or simply say goodbye to an older version of yourself?
I’d love to hear:
Where is life inviting you to move right now—externally or within?
Feel free to share in the comments or message me privately. This space is always here for your echoes.

