本期节目以「道家的逍遥/无执」为主题,聚焦《庄子》核心篇章「朝三暮四」,详细讨论其独特的逍遥观。
Richard 和 Justin 首先介绍了自己以及开设这一播客系列的初衷。他们深入论述了「哲学的双重视角」,为庄子式的逍遥与无执提供了可能。同时,他们也对这种逍遥/无执理论提出了一些疑虑。
时间轴:
00:00 Part I — 引言 Introduction
6:30 Part II — 道家的逍遥/无执 Daoist detachment
6:31 关于庄子 Our particular Daoist: Zhuangzi
8:30 「朝三暮四」典故 The monkey-trainer passage
10:44 哲学的双重视角 Philosophical double-vision
25:05 双重视角与价值区分 Double-vision and value distinctions
30:30 为什么我们要采纳哲学的双重视角? Why should we adopt philosophical double-vision?
40:38 两种视角如何整合(策略模型 vs. 垄断模型 vs. 其他) How the two perspectives can be integrated (strategic model vs. Monopoly model vs. others)
53:28 对道家逍遥的质疑:人际关系 An objection to Daoist detachment: personal relationships
1:00:22 另一种质疑:无意义感 An other objection: meaninglessness
1:11:05 下期主题 Next week’s topic
重点讨论段落 「朝三暮四」
劳神明为一,而不知其同也,谓之朝三。何谓朝三?曰狙公赋芧,曰:「朝三而莫四。」众狙皆怒。曰:「然则朝四而莫三。」众狙皆悦。名实未亏,而喜怒为用,亦因是也。是以圣人和之以是非,而休乎天钧,是之谓两行。
(English version: Zhuangzi, ch. 2, Paul K Kjellberg's translation)
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其他参考资料
The Zhuangzi 《庄子》 (Chinese)
The Zhuangzi (English translations)
The Daodejing (Chinese, English)
Bryan W. Van Norden, Introduction to ClassicalChinese Philosophy
Thomas Nagel, The View from Nowhere
Terrence Malick (director), The Tree of Life
Pierre Hadot, Philosophy as a Way ofLife
The Xunzi, ch. 21, section 5 (Xunzi’s brief criticism of Zhuangzi)
Confucius’s dialogue with the Duke of She (on the inescapability of human concerns)
P. F. Strawson, “Freedom and Resentment“
The Huainanzi, ch. 19, section 9 (story about the unpredictable turns of good and bad fortune)
The Zhuangzi, ch. 18, section 4 (Zhuangzi talks to a skull about death)
The Zhuangzi, ch. 18, section 2 (Zhuangzi “mourns” the death of his spouse)
The Zhuangzi, ch. 6, section 7 (ideal mourner Mengsun Cai)
Robert Nozick, The Examined Life:Philosophical Meditations
See also Justin Tiwald, “Well-Being and Daoism” for more on philosophical double-vision in the Zhuangzi
特别鸣谢 The Hong Kong Ethics Lab 的支持和赞助,以及 Warp, Weft and Way 网站对讨论环节的支持。
主持人:
Richard Kim's website
Justin Tiwald's website
音频剪辑 & 中文 show notes: Lena