023  “残障骄傲”真的是白人精英的特权吗?Disability Pride: Beyond Shame, Beyond Inspiration残言片语Disabled Talks

023 “残障骄傲”真的是白人精英的特权吗?Disability Pride: Beyond Shame, Beyond Inspiration

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【聊了什么 The What】

七月是“残障骄傲月”(Disability Pride Month)。在这个源于西方的概念里,有人找到了破除羞耻感的解药,也有人看到了它的阶层局限与视觉中心主义的盲区。本期节目,仁慈和八如邀请到了听众们超级喜欢的大程子和孔铭,从中文语境下的“骄傲与自豪”辨析,聊到公共游行的包容性反思,再到个人努力与系统变革的拉扯。如果生活已经很难了,我们到底在"骄傲"什么?“骄傲”是一种特权,还是一种重新定义自我的力量?我们欢迎你加入这场关于身体、身份认同与社会系统的坦诚对话。

July is Disability Pride Month. Born out of a Western context, this concept has become, for some, an antidote to internalized shame — while for others, it exposes real blind spots around class privilege and visually centric culture. In this episode, Renci and Baru are joined by two guests our listeners love — Da Cheng Zi and Kong Ming — for a conversation that moves from unpacking "pride" versus "self respect" in the Chinese language, to reflections on how inclusive (or not) public parades really are, to the tension between individual effort and systemic change. If life is already hard enough, what exactly are we being "proud" of? Is pride a privilege, or a way of redefining ourselves on our own terms? Join us for this honest conversation about the body, identity, and the systems we live within.

【本期嘉宾 This episode's guests】

大程子:轮椅使用者,UBC硕士在读,自媒体创作者。孔铭:盲人,导盲犬使用者,音乐家仁慈:假肢使用者,残障研究者,过气网红八如:INFJ听人,艺术家,美国聋校教师

Da Cheng Zi: Wheelchair user, M.A. student at the University of British Columbia, and disability content creator.Kong Ming: Blind musician, guide dog handler, and Ph.D. student.Mercy: Prosthetic user, disability studies researcher, and "former internet influencer."Baru: INFJ, hearing ally, artist, and Teacher of the Deaf and Hard of Hearing

【时间轴 The When】

  • 00:00:00 我们到底在为什么而骄傲?
  • 00:06:35 "残障骄傲"是不是美国人的概念?
  • 00:11:20 从羞耻到坦然:环境真的会改变一个人
  • 00:18:20 连残障游行,也可能排斥残障者?
  • 00:24:45 为什么轮椅花车让大程子哭了?
  • 00:29:45 Pride,到底该翻译成"骄傲"还是"自豪"?
  • 00:34:50 我不是为残障骄傲,而是为活下来骄傲。
  • 00:46:00 "残障骄傲"会不会也是一种特权?
  • 00:53:30 一个老师的一句话,可能改变孩子的一生。
  • 01:03:30 当我们谈个人努力时,别忘了系统责任。
  • 00:00:00 What are we actually proud of?
  • 00:06:35 Is "Disability Pride" an American concept?
  • 00:11:20 From shame to self-acceptance: Can environment change a person?
  • 00:18:20 Can a Disability Pride parade exclude disabled people?
  • 00:24:45 Why did a wheelchair parade make Dachengzi cry?
  • 00:29:45 Should Pride be translated as pride or self-respect in Chinese?
  • 00:34:50 I'm not proud of my disability. I'm proud that I survived.
  • 00:46:00 Is "Disability Pride" also a form of privilege?
  • 00:53:30 How one teacher's words can change a child's life.
  • 01:03:30 When we celebrate personal resilience, let's not forget systemic responsibility.

【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】

《残言片语》的姐妹播客《疲惫娇娃》最近会举办一个在纽约的读书会活动,感兴趣的朋友欢迎报名参加!

《台湾漫游录》线下读书会:8月9日,我们会在纽约中文独立书店Accent Sisters举办《台湾漫游录》线下读书会。故事讲述了1938年日本统治台湾时期,一位年轻的日本女性小说家来到岛上,希望能一路吃穿台湾,在这个过程中她爱上了自己的女性翻译,但却苦于难以克服殖民者与被殖民者之间的鸿沟。这本书今年斩获了国际布克奖,是首部获得这部奖项的华语原著作品。

【我们是谁 Who We Are】

残言片语是一档用残障视角看主流问题的中文播客。残障是人类无法逃避的脆弱性问题,我们致力于在日常生活和社会热点中搜寻被忽视的残障视角,期待和观众一起挑战刻板印象,打击健全中心主义(Ableism),从而真诚地感知、理解、创造自己与世界。

“Disabled Talks” is a Chinese podcast that explores mainstream issues through a disability lens, recognizing disability as an unavoidable aspect of human vulnerability often overlooked in mainstream discussions. Our mission is to uncover overlooked disability perspectives in everyday life and current events, challenge stereotypes, combat ableism alongside our audience, and foster genuine ways to perceive, understand, and shape ourselves and the world. Join us in reimagining societal narratives through the vital prism of disability experience.

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展开Show Notes
作为建筑师每天都要跟ADA法规打交道,确保每一扇门每一个卫生间都可以无障碍出入。听了这期节目觉得平时的工作更加具象和有意义了起来💪 ADA的通过确实是一件值得纪念的大事儿!(也是第一次意识到对于pride游行不同残障人群的感受是很不一样的,大型活动确实很难顾及到光谱上的每一个人,但很多时候就是先解决0和1的问题,再慢慢向前吧)
56:15 听到仁慈说的那句眼泪立马喷射出来 感觉天使降临了 好温暖好感人T^T
57:46 they're too stupid to see how smart you are🥺
17:42 有意思,这点没想过,确实有视觉中心主义的危险性。当我们说骄傲游行可以增加残障群体在社会上的visibility,whose visibility and who is left out。光谱的包容与需求的多样之间的矛盾也许需要永远被置于动态的解决过程之中。
好多人啊哈哈,能攒这个局真的很厉害!好奇生活在海外的残障群体对people with disability-》people with diffability的语言转变有什么看法呢?
1:06:31 我也觉得人一直在爱里长大才更有能力抗压,一直在指责打压中长大才不抗压
56:43 🥹🥹🥹😭😭😭我们绝对不要变成那样的大人
53:54 🥹🥺