Chris Anderson joins the show. You may recognize Chris from the early days of CouchDB and Couchbase. Back when the world was just waking up to NoSQL, Chris was at the center of it all, shaping how developers think about data distribution and offline-first architecture. These days, Chris is working on Vibes.diy and Fireproof — tools that make one-shot app generation not only possible, but shareable within minutes. We talk about the origins of CouchDB, the fork that led to Membase and Couchbase, and how that long journey led to this new paradigm: Vibe Coding. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 5 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool – Assemble your elite AI team, arm them with powerful custom tools, and watch them make your to-do list disappear. Start for free or book a demo at retool.com/agents * Depot – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. Featuring: * Chris Anderson – GitHub, X * Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * Vibes DIY - AI App Builder * There U Glow – Technical Knowledge Nook * 2 Vibe Coders inside you - YouTube Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Jerod tells Adam about how bad he hates the taste of Gin, sips on some Generative A Rye (on the rocks), they open the comments section for a bit, and then land the plane talking about being alone, naked, and afraid. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 6 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool – Assemble your elite AI team, arm them with powerful custom tools, and watch them make your to-do list disappear. Start for free or book a demo at retool.com/agents * Depot – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. * Outshift by Cisco – AGNTCY is an open source collective building the Internet of Agents. It’s a collaboration layer where AI agents can communicate, discover each other, and work across frameworks. For developers, this means standardized agent discovery tools, seamless protocols for inter-agent communication, and modular components to compose and scale multi-agent workflows. Featuring: * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X * Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * Generative A Rye Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Jerod is joined by Carson Gross, the creator of htmx –a small, zero-dependency JavaScript library that he says, “completes HTML as a hypertext”. Carson built it because he’s big on hypermedia, he even wrote a book called Hypermedia Systems. Carson has a lot of strong opinions weakly held that we dive into in this conversation. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 6 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool – Assemble your elite AI team, arm them with powerful custom tools, and watch them make your to-do list disappear. Start for free or book a demo at retool.com/agents * Depot – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. * Outshift by Cisco – AGNTCY is an open source collective building the Internet of Agents. It’s a collaboration layer where AI agents can communicate, discover each other, and work across frameworks. For developers, this means standardized agent discovery tools, seamless protocols for inter-agent communication, and modular components to compose and scale multi-agent workflows. Featuring: * Carson Gross – GitHub, X * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * </> htmx - high power tools for html * Why Gumroad Didn’t Choose htmx * Codin’ Dirty * Vendoring * Hypermedia Systems Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Lukas Mathis tells us to stop uploading our data to Google, Robert Vitonsky wants web devs to not guess his language using his IP, Tom from GameTorch reminds us that software talent is gold right now, Austin Parker from Honeycomb describes how LLMs are upending the observability industry, and Vitess co-creator, Sugu Sougoumarane, joins Supabase to lead their Multigres effort to bring Vitess to Postgres. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 1 minute on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes. Featuring: * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Justin Searls joins Jerod in Apple’s WWDC wake for hot takes about frosty UIs. We go (almost) point-by-point through the keynote, dissecting and reacting along the way. Concentricity! Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 5 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool – Assemble your elite AI team, arm them with powerful custom tools, and watch them make your to-do list disappear. Start for free or book a demo at retool.com/agents * Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes. Featuring: * Justin Searls – Website, GitHub, Mastodon, X * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * Apple WWDC 2025 Keynote These 4 Code Snippets won WWDC * Apple to Let iPhone Users Watch Videos on CarPlay Screen While Parked Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Jerod chats with Richard Feldman about Roc – his fast, friendly, functional language inspired by Richard’s love of Elm. Roc takes many of Elm’s ideas beyond the frontend and introduces some great ideas of its own. Get ready to learn about static dispatch, platforms vs applications, opportunistic mutation, purity inference, and a whole lot more. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 6 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool – Assemble your elite AI team, arm them with powerful custom tools, and watch them make your to-do list disappear. Start for free or book a demo at retool.com/agents * Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes. Featuring: * Richard Feldman – GitHub, X * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * The Roc Programming Language * Roc Zulip Chat * Software Unscripted * Elm Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Diwank explains why you should never let AI writes your tests, Apple redesigns all of their software platforms, AI has brought about the rise of judgement over technical skills, Peter Steinberger says Claude Code is now his computer, and the curious case of Memvid. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members support our work, get closer to the metal, and make the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes. Featuring: * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

The ever-provocative Steve Yegge joins us fresh off a vibe coding bender so productive, he wrote a book on the topic alongside award-winning author Gene Kim. Steve tells us why he believes the IDE is dead, why babysitting AI agents is more fun than coding, when vibe coding might take over the enterprise, how software devs should approach coding agents, and what it all means for society. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 6 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool – Assemble your elite AI team, arm them with powerful custom tools, and watch them make your to-do list disappear. Start for free or book a demo at retool.com/agents * Heroku – The Next Generation of Heroku “Fir” is coming soon — Fir is built on a foundation of cloud native technologies and open source standards, ensuring portability, interoperability, and a vibrant ecosystem for your applications. Cloud Native for everyone, for the next decade and beyond. * Outshift by Cisco – AGNTCY is an open source collective building the Internet of Agents. It’s a collaboration layer where AI agents can communicate, discover each other, and work across frameworks. For developers, this means standardized agent discovery tools, seamless protocols for inter-agent communication, and modular components to compose and scale multi-agent workflows. Featuring: * Steve Yegge – GitHub, LinkedIn, X * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X * Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * Claude Code * Amp * OpenAI Codex * Revenge of the junior developer * Steve’s book Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

We’re on location at Microsoft Build 2025 with Amanda Silver, Corporate Vice President of Microsoft’s Developer Division. Amanda leads product, design, user research, and engineering systems for some of the tools you use every day. We discuss the latest AI announcements from Microsoft at Build 2025, how AI is reshaping development tools, what’s next for VS Code, TypeScript, GitHub’s evolution, and even emerging editors like Windsurf that are forking the VS Code ecosystem. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 8 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool – Assemble your elite AI team, arm them with powerful custom tools, and watch them make your to-do list disappear. Start for free or book a demo at retool.com/agents * Heroku – The Next Generation of Heroku “Fir” is coming soon — Fir is built on a foundation of cloud native technologies and open source standards, ensuring portability, interoperability, and a vibrant ecosystem for your applications. Cloud Native for everyone, for the next decade and beyond. * Outshift by Cisco – AGNTCY is an open source collective building the Internet of Agents. It’s a collaboration layer where AI agents can communicate, discover each other, and work across frameworks. For developers, this means standardized agent discovery tools, seamless protocols for inter-agent communication, and modular components to compose and scale multi-agent workflows. Featuring: * Amanda Silver – * Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * Build 2025 Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

We’re doing a live show in Denver this July, Danilo Alonso has seen the ‘developer replacement’ hype cycle many times, Dan Sinker says we’re in the Who Cares Era, Cap looks like a solid alternative to typical CAPTCHA solutions, Michael Flarup on the return of texture, depth, and expressiveness in UI & Kan is an open source alternative to Trello. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 1 minute on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool…Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog Featuring: * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

We bring you back to Microsoft Build 2025 to nerd out with Craig Loewen on Windows Subsystem for Linux and Mads Torgersen on leading the design of C#. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 7 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: * Heroku – The Next Generation of Heroku “Fir” is coming soon — Fir is built on a foundation of cloud native technologies and open source standards, ensuring portability, interoperability, and a vibrant ecosystem for your applications. Cloud Native for everyone, for the next decade and beyond. * Depot – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. Featuring: * Craig Loewen – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X * Mads Torgersen – GitHub, LinkedIn * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X * Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source * “Backslashes are Trash” by Mat Ryer on YouTube Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

We’re joined by Andreas Møller, Co-founder of Nordcraft — the team behind Nordcraft Engine, a powerful new platform designed to give web developers what gaming developers have had for years. Andreas shares what inspired them to build Nordcraft Engine, why they believe the web is overdue for a shift in how we approach designing and building for the web, ee explore how the platform works, how you can get started, and what’s next for Nordcraft. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 6 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Heroku – The Next Generation of Heroku “Fir” is coming soon — Fir is built on a foundation of cloud native technologies and open source standards, ensuring portability, interoperability, and a vibrant ecosystem for your applications. Cloud Native for everyone, for the next decade and beyond. * Depot – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. Featuring: * Andreas Møller – Website, GitHub, X * Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * Nordcraft.com Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

The San Fransisco Standard published some sobering news for new graduates, the Forge team decided to put an AI agent in your shell, Fernando Borretti says you can choose tools that make you happy, Jujutsu’s flexibility and safety changed Nathan Witmer’s approach to version control, Anil Dash is as excited about MCP as almost everyone else is & Alex Kladov shares two rules of thumb around pushing “ifs” up and “fors” down. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 1 minute on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Depot – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. Featuring: * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

We sit down with Scott Hanselman at Microsoft Build 2025 to discuss open sourcing all the things, cool stuff Windows can do, where we want (and don’t want) AI to fit into our lives, building arcade cabinets, and so much more. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 7 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool…Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog * Depot – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. * Outshift by Cisco – AGNTCY is an open source collective building the Internet of Agents. It’s a collaboration layer where AI agents can communicate, discover each other, and work across frameworks. For developers, this means standardized agent discovery tools, seamless protocols for inter-agent communication, and modular components to compose and scale multi-agent workflows. Featuring: * Scott Hanselman – Website, GitHub, X * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X * Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * Keys Left? * Scott Hanselman.com * microsoft/winget-cli * Cephable * Pieces for Developers * Arcade | Scott Hanselman’s Blog Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Preston Thorpe joins us from inside prison, where he awaits a hopeful release within the next 12 months. His journey has been anything but easy—marked by hardship and uncertainty. But over the past few years, Preston has undergone a profound transformation. He’s refactored not just his skills, but his identity. Today, he proudly calls himself a software engineer and an open source contributor. In this episode, Preston shares his story of redemption, resilience, and what comes next. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 8 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool…Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog * Depot – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. * Outshift by Cisco – AGNTCY is an open source collective building the Internet of Agents. It’s a collaboration layer where AI agents can communicate, discover each other, and work across frameworks. For developers, this means standardized agent discovery tools, seamless protocols for inter-agent communication, and modular components to compose and scale multi-agent workflows. Featuring: * Preston Thorpe – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn * Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X * Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X Show Notes: * Preston Thorpe - My Story * Preston Thorpe - About * GitHub – PThorpe92 * Unlocked Labs * exa – Replacement for ls * eza – Modern replacement for exa * micro – Terminal-based text editor * The Stanford Prison Experiment Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!