RAYE names Amy Winehouse and Edith Piaf as her artistic predecessors on the opening tracks of new album This Music May Contain Hope. Both died young, undone by the same darkness they sang about, and placing them there reads as a dare to herself. The album that follows is her attempt to find a different ending: a 17-track, 75-minute work featuring Al Green, Hans Zimmer, the London Symphony Orchestra, and over 80 collaborators, structured around the four seasons as a journey from autumn despair toward summer light. Every genre shift on the record, from Vivaldi's Winter to post-bop jazz combo to gospel choir, serves that arc: small emotional truths get cinematic treatment, most strikingly when the click of heels on pavement becomes the central rhythm of an anthem about getting dressed to go out with friends. The episode serves as a field guide to the album's vast musical language, and to the argument that hope is something you have to build, genre by genre, track by track. Links: ⁠Newsletter⁠, ⁠YouTube * RAYE – "WHERE IS MY HUSBAND!" * Nat King Cole – "Let There Be Love" * Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong – "Summertime" * RAYE (ft. 070 Shake ) – "Escapism." * RAYE – "Intro: Girl Under the Grey Cloud." * RAYE – "I Will Overcome." * Edith Piaf – "La Vie en Rose" * RAYE – "Nightingale Lane." * RAYE – "Fin." * RAYE – "The WhatsApp Shakespeare." * Mark Ronson & RAYE – "Suzanne" * RAYE – "I Hate The Way I Look Today." * RAYE – "Winter Woman." * Vivaldi – "The Four Seasons: Winter" * RAYE (ft. Hans Zimmer) – "Click Clack Symphony." * RAYE (ft. Al Green) – "Goodbye Henry." * Al Green – "Love and Happiness" * Aretha Franklin – "Rock Steady" * RAYE – "Skin & Bones." * Fred Wesley and The J.B.'s (ft. James Brown) – "Damn Right I Am Somebody" * RAYE – "Beware.. The South London Lover Boy." * The Supremes – "You Can't Hurry Love" * Iggy Pop – "Lust for Life" Jet – "Are You Gonna Be My Girl?" * Mark Ronson (ft. Amy Winehouse) – "Valerie" * Charles Albert Tindley – "I'll Overcome Someday" * Prince - “Purple Rain" * Beyoncé – "Love on Top" * RAYE (ft. Amma & Absolutely) – "Joy." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On a recent podcast interview, Kentucky rapper Jack Harlow said that, to craft his new album Monica, he “got blacker.” The problem is… Jack Harlow is white. The statement, while extremely tone-deaf, speaks to his intentions with this musical pivot: musically, Monica turns to the historically Black genres of R&B and neo-soul to craft a new image designed to shed the stigma of being a “white rapper.” The pivot is more costume than culture, but in doing so, Harlow seems to be following in the footsteps of several white rappers over the past decade. Artists like Post Malone, MGK, and Jelly Roll have all had radical shifts in sound and image over their career, separating themselves from their roots in hip-hop. So, in response to Monica, Reanna and Charlie ask: where have all the white rappers gone? Links: ⁠Newsletter⁠, ⁠YouTube Songs discussed: * Jack Harlow – First Class * Jack Harlow – Lovin On Me * Jack Harlow – Trade Places * Post Malone, Hank Williams Jr. – Finer Things * Jack Harlow – Tyler Herro * Jack Harlow, Doja Cat – Just Us * Jack Harlow – Lonesome * J Dilla, Common, D’Angelo – So Far to Go * D’Angelo – Spanish Joint * D’Angelo – Feel Like Makin’ Love * Jack Harlow – All Of My Friends * Led Zeppelin - Babe I’m Gonna Leave You * Paul Wall, Big Pokey – Sittin’ Sidewayz * Beastie Boys – Fight For Your Right * Post Malone – White Iverson * Post Malone – Leave * Post Malone, Morgan Wallen – I Had Some Help * James Taylor – Machine Gun Kelly * MGK – LOCO * MGK, blackbear – my ex’s best friend * 5 Seconds of Summer – She Looks So Perfect * MGK – cliche * Jelly Roll – F*ck What They Talkin Bout (ft. O.N.E.) * Jelly Roll – Need A Favor * Bubba Sparxxx – Deliverance * Eminem – Cleanin’ Out My Closet * Eminem – Without Me Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jacob Collier is a rare musician: an expert in so many musical languages (western harmony, negative harmony, microtonalism) and a phenomenal communicator about music. He's something like an Ambassador for Music, traveling the world and getting thousands of people, musicians and non-musicians alike, to sing in his audience choirs. Live at On Air Fest, this conversation, catches Jacob between projects. Last year he released The Light for Days, a comparatively minimalist collection of songs written on his special five-string guitar, a quiet turn after the massive Djesse quadrilogy, which featured over 50 collaborators from Herbie Hancock to Anoushka Shankar and wove hundreds of thousands of audience choir voices into the recordings. Given that Jacob is always improvising with the best collaborators, Charlie wanted one of his own own. Five minutes before the show, Charlie spotted Sam Sanders, co-host of Vibe Check and host of the Sam Sanders Show on KCRW, and asked him onstage. Sam's a musician and one of the great interviewers, and he showed how improvising in conversation is just as essential as it is in music. Links: ⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The dance floor is where Harry Styles does his therapy, and this album is the session notes. Four years after Harry's House, Styles returns with Kiss All the Time, Disco Occasionally, a record built from minimal ingredients: live drums, Moog bass, nylon guitar, and synth sequences that stretch across entire songs without a drop in sight. This is Styles' anti-drop album. Where classic disco era dance celebrated collective joy, Styles uses the dance floor as a stage for self-examination. Links: ⁠Newsletter⁠, ⁠YouTube Songs discussed: * Harry Styles – "Aperture" * Ice Spice – "In Ha Mood" * PinkPantheress – "Boy's a Liar" * Zara Larsson – "Midnight Sun" * LCD Soundsystem – "Dance Yrself Clean" * LCD Soundsystem – "Someone Great" * LCD Soundsystem – "Oh Baby" * Harry Styles – "Pop" * Harry Styles – "Sign of the Times" * David Bowie – "Space Oddity" * Elton John – "Rocket Man" * Harry Styles – "Dance No More" * Chic – "Good Times" * Stevie Nicks – "Edge of Seventeen" * Simon & Garfunkel – "Keep the Customer Satisfied" * Paul Simon – "You Can Call Me Al" * Harry Styles – "Carla's Song" * Paul Simon – "Kathy's Song" * Simon & Garfunkel – "Bridge Over Troubled Water" * Harry Styles – "Are You Listening Yet?" * DJO – "Basic Being Basic" * Harry Styles – "Season Two, Weight Loss" * Sons of Kemet – "Play Mas" * Harry Styles – "Coming Up Roses" * Harry Styles – "American Girls" * LCD Soundsystem – "American Scum" * LCD Soundsystem – "Drunk Girls" * Harry Styles – "As It Was" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bruno Mars is back with a new album called The Romantic, his first solo release since 2016’s 24k Magic. At first listen, the lead single, “I Just Might,” sounds like an outtake from 2021’s collaborative album with Anderson Paak, the Philly soul-inspired An Evening with Silk Sonic. Listen closer though and another element emerges: a fast-paced conga drum line. The rest of Mars’s nine-track confection chases that Latin influence. This is not just another retread of 70s funk and soul. In fact, The Romantic makes the case that Mars is pop’s great counter-programmer, finding styles of the past that no one else has yet mined. Charlie and Nate break down all the new territory covered by Mars, from Latin boleros to Cuban cha chas, Nuyorican boogaloo to a mariachi “My Way.” The results may not change your mind about Mars, but they might make you appreciate the finer points of what is sure to be an omnipresent new release. Links: ⁠Newsletter⁠, ⁠YouTube Songs discussed: * Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile * ROSÉ, Bruno Mars - APT. * Bruno Mars - Risk It All * Eydie Gormé, Los Panchos - Sabor a Mí * Frank Sinatra - My Way * Bruno Mars - Cha Cha Cha * JUVENILE, Soulja Slim - Slow Motion * Pete Rodriguez - I Like It Like That * Cardi B, Bad Bunny, J Balvin - I Like It * Young-Holt Unlimited - Soulful Strut * Bruno Mars - I Just Might * Redbone - Come and Get Your Love * Leo Sayer - You Make Me Feel Like Dancing * Junior Senior - Move Your Feet * Bruno Mars - God Was Showing Off * Billy Paul - Me and Mrs. Jones * Bruno Mars - Why You Wanna Fight? * Bruno Mars - On My Soul * Curtis Mayfield - Move on Up * Bruno Mars - Something Serious * Willie Bobo - Evil Ways * Santana - Evil Ways * Santana - Oye Como Va * Tito Puente - Oye Cómo Va * Bruno Mars - Nothing Left * Bruno Mars - Dance With Me * Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emerald Fennell's new adaptation of Emily Brontë's 1847 gothic romance "Wuthering Heights" is the most talked-about film of the year. But for pop lovers, the soundtrack is the real event: Charli xcx, asked to write one song, ended up recording an entire album for the movie while in the middle of the BRAT tour. If BRAT gave people permission to be messy on the dance floor, this score gives permission to be messy in your souls. But Charli isn't the first artist to channel "Wuthering Heights" into music. Line up her hyperpop strings and cavernous reverb against Kate Bush's winding harmonies, a Hollywood orchestral score from 1939, and Ryuichi Sakamoto's unsettled piano, and something surprising emerges: the most operatic, passionate, Wuthering Heights-obsessed recording of them all might belong to someone you'd never expect. Songs discussed: * Charli xcx “Everything is Romantic” * Charli xcx “Always Everywhere” * Charli xcx “House” (feat. John Cale) * Hans Zimmer “Inception score” * Charli xcx “Wall of Sound” * Ike & Tina Turner “River Deep, Mountain High” * Charli xcx “Chains of Love” * Charli xcx “Out of Myself” * Charli xcx “Funny Mouth” (co-written with Joe Curie) * Alfred Newman “Wuthering Heights score (1939)” * Ryuichi Sakamoto “Wuthering Heights score (1992)” * Kate Bush “Wuthering Heights” * Celine Dion “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's the middle of award season, and Ryan Coogler's ode to the Black music canon Sinners has emerged as the Oscars frontrunner and the most nominated film in Academy Awards history. The love the movie has for the Delta blues is front and center, and begs the question: will the movie's legacy help bring the blues back into popular culture? There's already been a precedent for films reviving dead genres – think The Sting and its ragtime score, or O Brother Where Art Thou's relationship to bluegrass – and on this episode of Switched On Pop, Reanna and Nate talk with Vulture writer Fran Hoepfner about the times in which movie soundtracks have shifted the musical culture. Read Fran's piece on movie scoring, The Death of the Classic Film Score, here. Songs discussed: * Miles Caton – I Lied to You * Bee Gees – Stayin' Alive * Underworld – Born Slippy (Nuxx) * Marvin Hamlisch – The Entertainer * Wu-Tang Clan – Fast Shadow * Bee Gees – More Than A Woman * Whitney Houston – I Have Nothing * Harry McClintock – The Big Rock Candy Mountain * Alison Krauss – Down To The River To Pray * The Soggy Bottom Boys – I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow * *NSYNC – Bye Bye Bye * The Brian Setzer Orchestra – Jump Jive An' Wail * Cab Calloway – Minnie the Moocher * Royal Crown Revue – Hey Pachuco! * Caravan Palace – Lone Digger * Big Bad Voodoo Daddy – Go Daddy O * Squirrel Nut Zippers – Hell * Fergie, Q-Tip, GoonRock – A Little Party Never Killed Nobody * Lana Del Rey – Young And Beautiful * Max Richter – On the Nature of Daylight * Kavinsky – Nightcall * College, Electric Youth – A Real Hero * M83 – Midnight City * The Weeknd – Take My Breath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A$AP Rocky’s latest album, Don’t Be Dumb, is a wild ride through a cacophony of sounds — punk, industrial, drum ‘n’ bass, indie rock, and of course, hip hop. But on one track, “Robbery,” he and the rising superstar Doechii sample the world of jazz, specifically Thelonious Monk’s 1955 cover of Duke Ellington’s “Caravan.” In the process, Rocky and Doechii don’t just loop and flow, they create a whole narrative of jazz age victors and villains inspired by the rhythms and harmonies of jazz greats. The result is a song, and album, that makes the case for why hip hop matters more than ever in 2026. * A$AP Rocky – ROBBERY (feat. Doechii) * A$AP Rocky – STOLE YA FLOW * A$AP Rocky – ORDER OF PROTECTION * A$AP Rocky – PLAYA * A$AP Rocky – STFU (feat. Slay Squad) * A$AP Rocky – AIR FORCE (BLACK DEMARCO) * A$AP Rocky – THE END (feat. will.i.am & Jessica Pratt) * Kendrick Lamar - For Free? - Interlude * Clairo - Sinking * Thelonious Monk - Caravan * A$AP Rocky - L$D * Lou Donaldson - Ode To Billie Joe * Thelonious Monk - Black And Tan Fantasy * Wu-Tang Clan - Shame On a N**** * Duke Ellington, John Coltrane - My Little Brown Book * Ghostface Killah - Malcolm * Thundercat - Them Changes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What makes Weird Al songs so indelible? Why is Bo Burnham more than just a comic? How do the biggest pop hits make us crack up in the middle of a somber ballad? Humor is always present in music, but we rarely confront it head on. Until now. With the help of Comedian Chris Duffy, author of the book Humor Me: How Laughing Can Make You More Connected, Present, and Happy, and a series of lyrical submission from our listeners, we try to answer the question once posed by Frank Zappa, once and for all: Does humor belong in music? Songs discussed: Sabrina Carpenter – Manchild Marcia Belsky – 100 Tampons Bo Burnham – From God’s Perspective Snoop Dogg – Gin and Juice The Gourds – Gin and Juice Taylor Swift – All Too Well (10 Minute Version) “Weird Al” Yankovic – Amish Paradise “Weird Al” Yankovic – My Bologna Stevie Wonder – Pastime Paradise Coolio – Gangsta’s Paradise Bo Burnham – That Funny Feeling Bo Burnham – FaceTime With My Mom Elaine Stritch – Are You Having Any Fun? Barenaked Ladies – If I Had $1,000,000 Kendrick Lamar – Not Like Us Eminem – The Real Slim Shady 2 Chainz – Birthday Song Lil Jon – Snap Yo Fingers Olivia Rodrigo – Get Him Back Chappell Roan – Casual Audrey Hobert – I like to touch people Audrey Hobert – Bowling alley Jensen McRae – Immune Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Swedish pop star Robyn emerged as a phenomenon in the mid 1990s, an ingenue whose work with Max Martin presaged the R&B crossover hits of acts like Britney and the Backstreet Boys. Since her debut, she’s released a string of albums that have shaped the sound of dance music as we know it. Now, Robyn is releasing her first new album in eight years, Sexistential, and she’s given us three singles made up of her signature combination of thumping bass and ethereal vocals, while innovating into new personal –and vulnerable — territory. With raps about IVF, references to Blondie, a return to her collaboration with Max Martin, and our introduction of “drum n grace” to the lexicon, this episode is manna for Robyn fans and tyros alike. Stick around as we unveil a new feature, “Quick Hits,” a down-and-dirty carousel ride through the most interesting new releases, from ASAP Rocky to Zach Bryan. Songs discussed: * Robyn – Dopamine * Robyn – Show Me Love * Charli XCX, Robyn, Yung Lean – 360 remix * Jamie XX, Robyn – Life * Robyn – Konichiwa Bitches * Blondie – Rapture * Robyn – Honey * Robyn – Missing U * Robyn – Call Your Girlfriend * Taio Cruz – Dynamite * Robyn – Play * Robyn – Talk to Me * Robyn – Do You Know (What It Takes) * Robyn – Sexistential * Andre 3000 – I Swear, I Really Wanted to Make a 'Rap' Album but This Is Literally the Way the Wind Blew Me This Time * Robyn – Cobrastyle * Robyn – Dancing On My Own * A$AP Rocky – PUNK ROCKY * Zach Bryan – Plastic Cigarette * David Byrne – Driver's License * Moonchild – Up From Here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Two years ago, Audrey Hobert had never written a song. She was a staff writer on a Nickelodeon series and had recently moved in with her childhood friend Gracie Abrams in Los Angeles. About six months later, a phrase spoken by a heartbroken acquaintance caught their attention; Hobert and Abrams sang it back to each other and wrote a complete song that night. Within the following year, Hobert co-wrote songs including “I Love You, I’m Sorry” and “Risk” for Abrams’s number-two album The Secret of Us. When the television show she was working on was later canceled, Hobert made a hard pivot into her own music. What happened was Who's the Clown, a debut album where every track came from Hobert's own pen. In this live conversation recorded at NYU Steinhardt's Music and Performing Arts Professions program at Chelsea Studios, Hobert traces her path from dance classes choreographed to One Direction to eight-hour writing sessions that yield two good lines on a lucky day. She explains why she can't write in front of anyone, why she refuses to repeat a chorus three times, and why the Steve Martin documentary made her open her album with the disarmingly strange declaration: "I like to touch people." The conversation moves from craft to confession as Hobert reflects on what it means to finally be looked at, and whether the view from inside the spotlight is everything she'd imagined. Subscribe to the ⁠Newsletter⁠ to play along with our annual bingo predictions (last episode) SONGS DISCUSSED * Gracie Abrams "I Love You, I'm Sorry" * Gracie Abrams "That's So True" * Smash Mouth "All Star" * One Direction "Kiss You" * Audrey Hobert "Wet Hair" * Audrey Hobert "Chateau" * Audrey Hobert "I Like to Touch People" * Audrey Hobert "Sex in the City" * Audrey Hobert "Sue Me" * Audrey Hobert "Bowling Alley" * Semisonic "Closing Time" * Audrey Hobert "Silver Jubilee" * Audrey Hobert "Don't Go Back to His Ass" * Audrey Hobert "Shooting Star" * Black Eyed Peas "I Gotta Feeling" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s a brand new year, and what better way to ring it in than with the second annual Switched On Pop bingo? Like last year, Charlie, Nate, and Reanna polish their crystal balls and play Popstradamus, each throwing out eight outlandish pop predictions for the coming months. This time, there’s piano ballads, cover songs, and what Charlie calls the impending “death of auto-tune.” Get your own bingo card to play along through our ⁠Newsletter⁠! Find us on YouTube! Songs discussed: * The Prodigy – Firestarter * The Chemical Brothers – Block Rockin’ Beats * Basement Jaxx – Jump ’N Shout * Fatboy Slim – The Rockafeller Skank * Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars – Die With A Smile * Benson Boone – Beautiful Things * Post Malone, Ozzy Osbourne, Travis Scott – Take What You Want * LCD Soundsystem – Losing My Edge * Anamanaguchi, Hatsune Miku – Miku * Crazy Frog – Axel F * Hampton The Hamster – Hampsters Get the Blues * K/DA – POP/STARS * Madison Beer – make you mine * Forrest Frank – YOUR WAY’S BETTER * Tate McRae – Sports car * Tata Taktumi, Timbaland – Pulse x Glitch * PARTYNEXTDOOR, Drake, Yebba – DIE TRYING * The Mighty Mighty Bosstones – The Impression That I Get * Maddox Batson – Tears In The River * JAY-Z – D.O.A. (Death Of Autotune) * Adele – Someone Like You * Bruno Mars – When I Was Your Man * Lewis Capaldi – Someone You Loved * Rihanna, Mikky Ekko – Stay * Baauer – Harlem Shake * Billie Eilish – bury a friend * This Is Lorelei, MJ Lenderman – Dancing in the Club – MJ Lenderman Version * WITCH – Once In A Lifetime * MOLIY, Shenseea, Silent Addy, Skillibeng – Shake It To The Max (FLY) – Remix * Geese – Bow Down * Turnstile – LOOK OUT FOR ME * Rebecca Black – Sugar Water Cyanide * Bad Bunny – DtMF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A scientist asked people to sit in a silent room for 15 minutes. Almost half of them decided to give themselves a painful electric shock instead. What is it about our brains that makes our relationship with silence so strange? And should we learn how to listen to it? This is the third episode of the four-part Unexplainable series, The Sound Barrier. Links: ⁠Newsletter⁠, ⁠YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Every Christmas season, pop stars far and wide throw their Santa hats into the ring to see who has the next "All I Want for Christmas Is You," and this year is no exception. It's a yearly tradition on Switched On Pop to explore the deluge of holiday hits, and 2025 sees formidable entries to the canon from folks like Kylie Minogue, Leon Bridges, and Willie Nelson. Links: ⁠Newsletter⁠, ⁠YouTube Songs discussed: * Ariana Grande – Santa Tell Me * Kelly Clarkson – Underneath the Tree * Cher – Christmas Is Here * Cher – Believe * Kylie Minogue – Hot in December * Zach Top – For You For Christmas * Willie Nelson – Christmas Love Song * Mickey Guyton – Sugar Cookie * Meghan Trainor – Gifts For Me * The Ronettes – Sleigh Ride * Gwen Stefani – Hot Cocoa * Train – Let's Stay in Tonight * Brenda Lee – Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree * Leon Bridges, Norah Jones – This Christmas I'm Coming Home * Elysia Biro – The Christmas Song Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

From big-ticket albums by Taylor and Gaga, to a revival of the stomp-clap revival – 2025 had it all, for better and for worse. Now that the year has come to a close, it's time to take a look back at the past twelve months: what happened in the zeitgeist, what we loved listening to, and what we missed here on the show. Reanna, Charlie, and Nate talk about it all, including a look back at our predictions from January to check off boxes for Switched On Pop bingo. Links: Newsletter, YouTube Songs discussed: * Taylor Swift – The Fate of Ophelia * Alex Warren – Ordinary * HUNTR/X – Golden * Morgan Wallen – I'm The Problem * Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga – Die With A Smile * Bruno Mars – 24K Magic * ROSÉ, Bruno Mars – APT. * Olivia Dean – Man I Need * Ravyn Lenae – Love Me Not * Justin Bieber, Dijon – DEVOTION * Bon Iver, Dijon, Flock of Dimes – Day One * Dijon – Baby! * Dijon – Yamaha * CA7RIEL – SHIPEA2 * Paco Amoroso – Viuda Negra * CA7RIEL & Paco Amoroso – EL ÚNICO - Live at NPR MUSIC's Tiny Desk * CA7RIEL & Paco Amoroso – EL DÍA DEL AMIGO * CA7RIEL & Paco Amoroso – #TETAS * Breaking Rust – Walk My Walk * Jack Black – Steve's Lava Chicken * Saja Boys – Soda Pop * Snocaps – Coast * Miley Cyrus – Something Beautiful * Bad Bunny – DtMF * MOLIY, Shenseea, Silent Addy, Skillibeng – Shake It To The Max (FLY) - Remix Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices