Monday gave us the release of Anthropic’s S-1 filing, providing the clearest view yet into the business side of the A.I. boom and setting the stage for what could be the largest initial public offering in history. We’ll talk to Erin Griffith, who has been reporting on the story, about what it means for the company, the tech industry and the broader economy. Then we’re joined by the tech reporter Mike Isaac and the writer Jasmine Sun to break down the rest of this week’s tech news, including how the midterm elections next week could affect the future of tech policy, as well as the latest round of cybersecurity worries and Microsoft’s offer of buyouts to 60,000 employees. Guests: * Erin Griffith, a technology reporter at The New York Times * Mike Isaac, a technology reporter at The New York Times * Jasmine Sun, journalist and writer at jasmi.news Additional Reading: * Anthropic Reveals Skyrocketing Growth and Spending Plans in I.P.O. Filing * What’s Riding on Anthropic’s Market Debut? Nearly Everything. * Anthropic’s I.P.O. Prospectus Spells Out a Future of Promise and Peril * Why Anger About Data Centers and Energy Prices May Not Swing Votes * What Is PHP? Why Are Government and Business Websites Going Offline? * Microsoft Offers Buyouts to 60,000 Employees as It Spends on A.I. We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, we focus on Billy Evans, the breakout character of the documentary “You Can See Everything,” and his Theranos-esque new blood-testing start-up. Rob Copeland, a New York Times finance reporter, and Erin Griffith, a tech reporter, join Max Read to discuss what Evans is like when the cameras are off, whether his start-up is a real company and how Silicon Valley is reacting to the film. Then, we break down CoreWeave’s debt, a possible SpaceX-Tesla merger and Joel Kaplan’s Meta exit. Finally, a returning guest: John Carreyrou joins us to answer listener questions about Elizabeth Holmes. Guests: * Erin Griffith, a technology reporter at The New York Times * Rob Copeland, a finance reporter at The New York Times * John Carreyrou, an investigative reporter at The New York Times and author of “Bad Blood” Additional Reading: * Elizabeth Holmes’s Partner Has a New Blood-Testing Start-Up * The Elizabeth Holmes Documentary, Through the Eyes of the Reporter Who Exposed Her * Weak Links Start to Show in A.I. Borrowing * SpaceX and Tesla Explore Merger to Create a De Facto Elon Inc. * Meta’s Global Policy Chief to Leave After 15 Years We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, there’s a new blockbuster Elizabeth Holmes documentary out, and we’ve assembled an expert panel to discuss the movie and what Holmes means to the tech world of today. Max Read is joined by John Carreyrou, who, through his investigative reporting for The Wall Street Journal and his book “Bad Blood,” revealed the fraud at the heart of Theranos; Erin Griffith, a tech reporter who extensively covered Holmes’s trail; and Caitlin Roper, the New York Times executive producer who wrote the first-ever magazine piece about Holmes for Wired back in 2013. We end with a rundown of what else is happening in tech news this week. Panelists: * Erin Griffith, a tech reporter for The New York Times. * John Carreyrou, author of “Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup” and an investigative reporter for The New York Times’s business section. * Caitlin Roper runs film, TV and books at The New York Times. Additional Reading: * ‘You Can See Everything’ Review: The Slippery Mind of Elizabeth Holmes * Elizabeth Holmes’s Partner Has a New Blood-Testing Start-Up * Elizabeth Holmes to Transfer to Halfway House in August 2027 * F.B.I. Arrests OpenAI Employee Accused of Planting Bug in Office We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, Max Read talks to the Times religion correspondent Elizabeth Dias, the tech reporter Erin Griffith and the opinion writer David Wallace-Wells about Anthropic’s private meetings with religious scholars on A.I. consciousness and how to make Claude “good,” its differences with the Vatican and the new belief systems taking shape in Silicon Valley. Panelists: * Elizabeth Dias, national religion correspondent for The New York Times. * Erin Griffith, a tech reporter for The New York Times. * David Wallace-Wells, an opinion writer for The New York Times. Additional Reading: * Religious Scholars Met With Anthropic. What They Heard Stunned Them. * What Would You Do If Your Employer Could Destroy the World? Exit interviews with defectors from OpenAI, Anthropic and DeepMind. * I Quit OpenAI Because Its Culture Is Broken We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, after months in which rogue agents have caused havoc across the internet, tech’s most powerful leaders joined President Trump at the White House to rebrand A.I. At the same time, two of the biggest companies in the field — OpenAI and Meta — released what they say are their most useful (and cutest) A.I. tools to date: personal assistants. To discuss it all, we’re joined by the Times tech reporters Mike Isaac, Erin Griffith and Eli Tan. We’ll discuss how things can be more dangerous and potentially more transformative than ever, and what it’s like to hand your life over to Meta’s Muse. Panelists: * Erin Griffith, a reporter for The New York Times who covers start-ups and venture capital. * Mike Isaac, a reporter for The New York Times who covers Silicon Valley and artificial intelligence companies. * Eli Tan, a reporter for The New York Times who covers Meta and the tech industry. Additional Reading: * ​​OpenAI Ignored Employees’ Warnings About Safely Testing A.I. Models * Who Attended Trump’s A.I. Luncheon, and Who Sat Where * F.T.C. Investigates OpenAI and Anthropic Over Potential Consumer Harms * I Gave My Life Over to Meta’s A.I. Agent and Was Blown Away * OpenAI Unveils Dots, New A.I. Agents to Rival Meta’s Muse * Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows sweeping AI vision, surging costs * How Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

For the next few months on “Hard Fork,” join the guest host Max Read and an array of Times reporters and experts as we zoom out, catch up and try to understand both what’s happening inside the tech industry and what tech is doing to all of us. Meet the Host Max Read has been writing about technology and the internet for more than a decade, most recently in his weekly newsletter, Read Max. His writing has appeared over the years in various publications with the words “New York” in the title, including New York magazine, The New York Times and The New York Times Magazine. He has also recently been dispensing workplace advice as everyone’s “Work Friend.” We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, we break down why everyone is suddenly talking about A.I. safety, why frontier A.I. companies are asking for regulation and why the Trump administration is rejecting them. And then, to close out this chapter of “Hard Fork,” we answer all your questions about the show, tech and what’s happening next. Additional Reading: * The A.I. Researcher Whose Rebellion Is Changing Everything * Top A.I. Leaders Call for Slowing Down A.I. Development * President Trump Is on the Line About an A.I. Slowdown * Mark Zuckerberg Takes Aim at Anthropic in Debate Over A.I. Slowdown * The ‘But China!’ Dilemma Driving the A.I. Race We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, we’re diving into two new reports about the OpenAI-Hugging Face hack. We discuss what’s new and how they fundamentally change our understanding of what happened. Then we’re joined by Ajeya Cotra, one of the investigators at METR, to discuss the rogue agents’ message board and chain-of-thought transcripts and how the world should respond. Guests: * Ajeya Cotra, co-author of the METR and Redwood Research report on the OpenAI-Hugging Face hack. Additional Reading: * Brief Independent Investigation of Agents’ Behavior, Reasoning and Collaboration in the OpenAI / Hugging Face Hacking Incident * The Hugging Face Attack Surprised Me * The Hugging Face Incident and the Road Ahead * Nvidia Buys Hugging Face in $12.9 Billion Deal We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, Meta agreed to pay up to $17.1 billion and make major changes to Facebook and Instagram over claims it endangered children with addictive social media platforms. We discuss why it capitulated and what it means for the entire social media industry. Then, Princeton computer science professor Arvind Narayanan returns to offer his thoughts on why banning data centers won’t slow down A.I. progress. And finally, it’s all hats on deck for the final HatGPT. Guests: * Arvind Narayanan, professor of computer science at Princeton, and co-author of the “A.I. as Normal Technology” newsletter. Additional Reading: * Meta to Pay Up to $17.1 Billion in Landmark Settlement Over Social Media Addiction Claims * Mark Zuckerberg Wants to Make Sure His Competitors Share His Pain * Arvind Narayanan’s Post About A.I. Data Centers * Apple Vision Pro in Surgery: A New Paper * Rockstar Finally Breaks Its Silence Over The GTA 6 Leaks, Calls Them ‘Heartbreaking’ * Amazon Delivery Drone Dumps Texas Woman’s Parcel Straight Into Her Swimming Pool * What if Your Texts Traveled as Slowly as a Carrier Pigeon? * A.I. Agents Are Turning Founders Into Insomniacs * What is a ‘Meat Proxy’? The New Term For Coworkers Who Blindly Share A.I. Output * Chinese Robot Tiangong Clocks Sub-9 second 100 Metres in Beijing * Inside OpenAI’s Reboot Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week we’re talking about Mark Zuckerberg’s latest essay, “The Future Is for Everyone,” which outlines his positive new vision about the potential of A.I. But do we think it’s credible? Then, Pangram’s chief executive, Max Spero, joins us to talk about the breakout success of his A.I. slop detector. And finally, it’s time for our new segment all about math — we’re Running the Numbers. Guests: * Max Spero, chief executive of Pangram Additional Reading: * The Future Is for Everyone * Meta Unveils an Open Version of Its Most Powerful A.I. Model * Meta Ordered to Pay $567 Million in New Mexico Child Safety Case * Sick of A.I.-Generated Content? The ‘Slop Janitor’ Is Here to Help. * Learning more about Claude's mathematical capabilities * Airtable Acquisition Is ‘Kick in the Gut’ for Software Unicorns and Their Backers * The Dating Scene That’s Suddenly Dominated by Chip Nerds We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, the White House announced a new framework for regulating A.I. models, but it isn’t letting the public read it. We break down what we know about the rules and what the implications are for the industry and A.I. safety as a whole. Then, yet another report details new incidents in which A.I. agents have gone rogue. Chris Painter, the president of METR, an independent A.I. evaluation organization, joins to discuss how we get these models under control. And finally, we're hopping on the Hot Mess Express for the very last time. We’ll rate the craziest tech headlines from the week, including Google’s announcement that Demis Hassabis is stepping into a new role. Guests: * Chris Painter, president of METR. Additional Reading: * White House Readies A.I. Framework to Review Security Risks * Inside Trump's AI framework * How Do You Measure an A.I. Boom? * METR’s Frontier Risk Report * Google Shakes Up A.I. Leadership * Did an A.I. Music App Just Snitch on the Song of the Summer? * This AI Assistant Wants to Make Up for Your Boyfriend’s Incompetence * Google Earth’s AI deepfake tool only lasted one day * US government map of Africa mislabels every country at global conference * Contractor who built Colossus and Colossus II says Elon Musk owes him colossal amount of money We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, feuding between some of the biggest tech companies spilled into public view. We discuss Apple’s accusation that OpenAI tried to steal secrets about Apple’s hardware business, as well as share our reactions about OpenAI’s new model, Sol, and Anthropic’s decision to extend access to its model Fable. Then, we unpack the loudest warning yet about A.I. and jobs. We talk with Erik Brynjolfsson, a Stanford economist, about a statement he helped organize that implores economists and A.I. researchers to “act now” to steer A.I. in a direction that complements humans. And finally, we play a round of HatGPT. Guest: * Erik Brynjolfsson, senior fellow at the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered A.I., and director of the Stanford Digital Economy Lab. Additional Reading: * Apple Sues OpenAI, Accusing It of Stealing Company Secrets * OpenAI’s First Device Will Be Movable, Screenless Speaker Built as A.I. Companion * Nearly 200 Economists and Tech Leaders Warn of A.I. Threats * The loudest warning about A.I. and jobs yet * OpenAI Is Showing Kalshi’s World Cup Odds in ChatGPT * New York Enacts Nation’s First Statewide Moratorium on Data Centers * Brown Professor Suspects Majority of His Class Used A.I. to Cheat * MiniMax CEO Vows to Forgo Salary Until Achieving A.G.I. * Lorde Speaks Out — With Expletives — Against A.I. Glasses * Nearly 6 in 10 Young Women Get Health and Wellness Information from Influencers * Meta Removes A.I. Feature on Instagram After Days of Backlash We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, with news that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to take up Texas’ age verification law for app stores, we check in on how social media bans are going around the globe and what may be coming soon to a state near you. Then, we’re joined by Jeff Sebo, an associate professor at N.Y.U., to discuss new research into “A.I. welfare” and whether A.I. could ever become conscious. And finally, in our latest edition of Tool Time, we show each other some of the latest tech tools we’ve been experimenting with. Guest: * Jeff Sebo, associate professor and the director of the Center for Mind, Ethics, and Policy at N.Y.U. Additional Reading: * Why Social Media Bans Are Gaining Steam * Four in Five Under-16s in Australia Using Social Media Despite Ban, Study Shows * It Turns Out Banning Teens From Social Media Is Hard * Studying A.I. Welfare Empirically * A Global Workspace in Language Models We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, the Commerce Department lifted its restrictions on Anthropic’s powerful A.I. models, Claude Mythos and Claude Fable. We dissect why the government took such a hands-on approach in the first place, how the restriction on the OpenAI model GPT 5.6 is likely to resolve and what, if anything, this tells us about A.I. competition with China. Then, Dr. Dana Suskind, a pediatric surgeon and the author of the forthcoming book “Human Raised,” stops by to discuss a framework she has developed to help parents make informed decisions about what kinds of A.I. products are safe for children. And finally, we introduce a new segment about prediction markets: Against All Odds. Guest: * Dr. Dana Suskind, founder and co-director of the TMW Center for Early Learning + Public Health at the University of Chicago and author of the forthcoming book “Human Raised: Nurturing Connection, Curiosity and Lifelong Learning in the Age of A.I.” Additional Reading: * U.S. Lifts Restrictions on Anthropic’s Most Powerful A.I. Models * U.S. Bars Foreigners From Using Anthropic’s Most Advanced A.I. Models * Chinese A.I. Models Close the Gap With Anthropic and OpenAI * The Donk-ing of a Truth Machine * Mark Zuckerberg Directed Meta to Create a Prediction Markets App We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This week, we’re bringing you two A.I.-related stories from our colleagues at The New York Times. First, Rachel Abrams, a host of “The Daily,” talks with the Times reporter Eli Saslow about a woman in a remote part of Washington who is using an A.I. companion robot to keep her independence, and to keep her company. Then, the Times Opinion culture editor Nadja Spiegelman talks to the New Yorker writer Kyle Chayka and the journalist and critic Sophie Haigney. They get into the rise of “taste slop” and what happens to culture if the internet collapses into just a few chatbots that serve us everything. “Hard Fork” will be back with an original episode next week. Guests: * Eli Saslow, a reporter for The New York Times who writes in-depth stories about the impact of major national issues on people’s lives. * Kyle Chayka, staff writer at The New Yorker covering technology and online culture. * Sophie Haigney, a critic and journalist. Additional Reading: * Can A.I. Make People Feel Less Lonely? * What Silicon Valley Is Coming for Next We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.