模特、酒吧老板、摄影师、音乐人、演员
Model, bartender, photographer, musician, actor……
这些都是我的身份
These are all me.
也都可以被忽略
These are also just labels dispensable.
做这些是为了证明给谁看吗
Am I doing it all to prove myself?
我已经过了这样的年纪
I’m past that stage
曾经花了太多时间来取悦别人
of spending majority of time to please other people.
现在偶尔留点空间来取悦自己
Now I hold space for myself
能从里面找到些乐趣就够了
and find joy and pleasure within.
北大才女、考古学霸、广告策划
PKU graduate, with a degree in archaeology and a planner job in advertising
这些是我吗?
Does it describe me?
都不是
No.
我只是热爱音乐的90后女生
I’m just a millennial girl who loves music.
我还是少年吗
Am I still a “Youth”?
必须是
Of course.
我还没有变老
I’m not old yet.
依然自由
I’m still free.
做最酷的事
I do the coolest things
也保留着孩子气
and act like a child sometimes.
您什么时候觉得
Since when, do you think,
自己不再是少年而成为了先生
you’ve grown into an “Esquire” from a “Youth”?
其实就是
It was when
当你自己不像年轻的时候那么茫然
I no longer felt as confused as when I was young.
你活得很充实 然后很有责任感
I started to live in fulfillment and accept my responsibilities,
然后开始让外在觉得自己很可靠
to be reliable to others
愿意把一些责任交给你的时候
so that they can trust me with duties.
我觉得就算是先生了
I think that’s how I become an “Esquire”.
那你是怎么理解少年的定义的呢?
How do you understand the meaning of “Youth”?
我觉得少年对于我来说
Youth to me,
就是始终保留心动的权利
is a perpetual right to be moved and feel my heartbeats,
保留好奇心和保留对于世界依然有追问的那种感觉
to stay curious and be intrigued by the world.
那您是怎么理解
Then how do you understand
先生与少年之间的关系呢
the relationship between the “Esquire” and the “Youth”?
其实就可以理解为
From what I see,
现在我们的话就是一种共创关系
the relationship is one of “co-creation”.
就是 少年总有一天他会变成先生
A “youth” will grow into an “Esquire” one day.
但先生可能他的身体里
But deep inside the “Esquire”
永远有少年很真挚的
will always be a part that’s sincere and passionate.
那部一分没有被磨灭掉
That young edge won’t wear away.
其实我们也是一种经典传承之后
In fact, we are people who, after having received a heritage of the classic,
然后再在这个基础上
build on it,
去做革新的一部分人
and innovate from there.
经典后的创新
We create, following the classic,
站在经典的肩膀上
standing on the shoulders of the classic.
您会觉得
Do you think,
现在自己还能跟得上
now you can keep up with
这种大众的潮流吗
the trends in our time?
我觉得我是一个挺时髦的人
I think of myself as a trendy person.
我觉得到了我这个年纪
At my age,
更多的是为自己而活的
I live mainly for myself.
自己觉得怎么舒服
It’s important to find the pace that’s comfortable to myself,
或者就去追随什么
and to follow the things I like
然后不委屈自己吧
without forcing myself.
所以你为什么
So, why
现在还在坚持做爵士乐
do you insist on making jazz?
可能大家会觉得
People may think
它是一种非常散的
Jazz is music that’s loosely structured,
非常自由的一种音乐
that’s very free.
但它其实有很多自己的内在的规则
but in fact, it has many rules
有它自己的设计感
and is in its own way, very carefully designed.
那你怎么看待我们生活中各种各样的设计
What do you think about the various designs we see in our life?
我其实还蛮在意设计感的
I do care much about the design of things.
就是从我自己的着装也好
From my clothes
我的车
to my cars,
我都特别需要它具有设计感
I need them to have a good design concept.
如果说你要买第一辆车的话
Were you to buy your first car,
你觉得它应该是什么样子
how would you picture it to be like?
它的设计应该是什么样的
What kind of design would it have?
我希望首先它是简约的
Firstly, I want it to be minimalistic in style,
因为它简约
For minimalism
可以让它有更多
can allow me the room
我去赋予它新的内容的空间
to create new meaning for the car.
车的设计感其实
Designing a car is similar
跟我们的表演其实是挺像的
to acting or shaping a role.
需要去研究经典
It is important to study the classic
就像我们刚才聊的 要去创新
and to create something new, as we talked about earlier.
然后最近我就发现有一款车(大众ID.3)
Recently, I’ve come across a car (Volkswagen ID.3)
它在设计上就把感性和理性的科技元素
It combines by design, the emotional and the rational benefits afforded by the technological elements
就结合得非常好
into a perfect unity
兼顾了小尺寸大空间的特征
And achieves the effect of having a spacious interior despite its compact size.
像您刚才说的这种经典加创新
I agree with the idea that innovation must build on the classic
其实我在做很多我自己的作品的时候
When I’m making my own pieces,
包括我们会去翻唱经典的老的作品
like covering those classic works,
然后会给它赋予新的视听的感受
I prefer giving them new audiovisual experience
比如像我们之前(和大众品牌一起)翻唱过《那些花儿》
Just like, together with Volkswagen, I adapted the song Those Flowers,
就是一首非常经典的歌
which is a very classic song
像选车啊
When it comes to choosing a car,
像这种生活方式的产品的时候
or other products in my daily life,
我其实也会去找
actually, I’m looking for
这种经典当中有创新元素的
those innovative elements in classic work
(大众全新速腾)能够满足那种前卫
Volkswagen's new Sagitar is a such product that
又带着符合我的品质格调的一种产品
satisfies both avant-garde and futuristic taste
审美是感性的
The aesthetic of a design is to be felt rather than deliberated.
但是设计背后肯定是兼具理性和感性的
But the concept of the design must be both emotional and rational.
设计是可以提供情绪价值的
A good design can provide emotional values.
化繁为简
Make the complex easy…
感受到它的律动感
Can you feel its rhythm?
先生和少年
The “Esquire” and the “Youth”,
是相辅相成的
they complement each other.
无论经典
Either the classic
还是创新
or the innovative,
都不应该被限制
should not be limited.
两者都是不断突破与发掘
Both keep on exploring and making breakthroughs,
共创值得期待的未来
Co-creating a future worth looking forward to.

