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136【聊了什么The What】
这个夏天，我们无数次的跟人解释：Netflix的Kpop猎魔女团虽然设定听起来很扯，但真的是好看的。顶流女团的真实身份是猎魔人，而她们的竞争对手（非常工具人的）男团则是一群真正的恶魔，用歌声和粉丝量争夺人类灵魂。我们从这部作品聊开去，探讨它如何超越了新时代的迪士尼公主叙事，创造了一个有工作的、更具代入感的当代女性童年幻想的寄托：和最好的朋友住在一起，拥有穿不完的漂亮衣服，人生最大的困难是和朋友的互相不理解。在一定程度上，对小朋友可能有点太幼稚，但对疲惫的我们正中要害。同时我们也回顾了过去十年 K-Pop 的全球化，从 BTS 在疫情期间的爆红到 Blackpink 登上 Coachella 主舞台；好像体感上今年夏天真的不一样，他们说的“韩流闯美”或许真的来了？
This summer, we found ourselves repeatedly explaining to people: like, yes, Netflix’s K-pop Demon Hunters sounds ridiculous on paper, you might even feel ridiculous watching the first 20 minutes — but it’s actually really good. The setup? A top girl group is secretly made up of demon hunters, while their rivals—the boy band—are literal demons battling for human souls through their music and fandom numbers.
We used this show as a jumping-off point to explore how it goes beyond the new-generation Disney princess narrative to create a more relatable modern female fantasy—one where you live with your best friends, have endless fabulous outfits, and your biggest challenge in life is misunderstandings between friends. It might feel childish to some, especially for kids, but for us—burned out adults—it hit the emotional sweet spot.
We also looked back on a decade of K-pop global expansion, from BTS’s meteoric rise during the pandemic to Blackpink headlining Coachella. This summer feels different. Maybe the “Korean Wave” going global is actually happening?
【时间轴 The When】
00:39 - 奇幻首尔里用歌声封印恶魔的猎魔女团HUNTRIX。
10:28 - 立体的女性友谊和工具人男团
18:35 - K-pop产业的理想化呈现
21:26 - 从《降世神通》到现在亚裔创作者主体性的增强
27:14 - 保护我们的童年幻想和天经地义的女性友谊
42:34 - Kpop在欧美市场主流化了吗？
00:39 - HUNTRIX: A demon-hunting girl group sealing demons with songs in a fantastical Seoul
10:28 - Deep female friendships vs. the “utility tool” boy band
18:35 - The idealized portrayal of the K-pop industry
21:26 - From Avatar: The Last Airbender to the growing agency of Asian creators
27:14 - Protecting our childhood fantasies and the naturalness of female friendship
42:34 - Has K-pop gone mainstream in Western markets?
【拓展链接 The Links】
58 “BTS之父”套现4000亿：韩娱教父的资本骗局遭政治狙击
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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