

077 | Vibe Shift 三部曲:匮乏时代的流行文化 Popular culture in the age of scarcity【百花新闻信 Baihua Newsletter】 百花 Baihua Newsletter 正式上线了。也希望疲惫娇娃的听众们去订阅这个新闻信。 如果你一直在听《疲惫娇娃》《美轮美换》,或者来过我们的读书会、线下活动,你其实已经在百花的世界里了。只是现在,我们想把这个世界更系统、更持续地建起来。我们想记录中文播客圈正在发生什么,记录中国互联网的公共讨论空间,也记录这一代数字原住民华语创作者如何在"平行互联网"之间生存、创造、发声,这个新闻信是双语的,我们几个女的和其他百花成员会轮流写作。 请点击这里订阅:https://baihua.substack.com/ 如果打不开这个链接,请用以下问卷留下你的邮箱账号:https://wj.qq.com/s2/25773709/59ax/ Baihua Newsletter has officially launched. We warmly invite listeners of CyberPink to subscribe. If you’ve been listening to CyberPink or Mei Lun Mei Huan, or have joined our book clubs and offline events, you’ve already been part of the Baihua world. Now, we want to build that world in a more systematic and sustainable way. Through Baihua, we aim to document what’s happening in the Chinese-language podcast sphere, trace the evolving public discourse on the Chinese internet, and explore how a generation of digital-native Chinese creators are surviving, creating, and speaking across what we call “parallel internets.” The newsletter is bilingual. We — along with other Baihua contributors — will take turns writing. Subscribe here: https://baihua.substack.com/ If you can't open the URL above, leave your email address here: https://wj.qq.com/s2/25773709/59ax/ 【聊了什么The What】 这期节目是vibe shift三部曲的最后一集——在酝酿了很久以后,我们终于找到了一个适合开启的角度——“匮乏”。这里的匮乏不仅仅指经济指标上的衰退(如好莱坞罢工、票房崩溃、生活成本危机),更指向一种集体心理状态:对美好未来的想象力丧失了。 当“信心”消失,欲望就变成了苦涩的愤怒和嘲讽。我们聊到了韩国电影中为了生存系统性谋杀竞争对手的失业男主,聊到了好莱坞自由主义叙事的全面崩塌,以及 Gen Z 为何不再相信《哈利·波特》式的英雄主义。在这样一个极化、原子化、被算法裹挟的时代,我们该如何寻找解药?答案或许在于做一些“低效”但具体的事情,比如给邻居送菜,比如慢慢地讲一个故事。 This episode is the final installment of our “Vibe Shift” trilogy. After circling the theme for a long time, we finally found the right entry point: scarcity. Scarcity here doesn’t only refer to economic downturns — Hollywood strikes, collapsing box office numbers, or the cost-of-living crisis. It points to something deeper: a collective psychological state in which the imagination of a better future has eroded. When confidence disappears, desire curdles into resentment, sarcasm, and anger. We talk about a Korean film in which an unemployed man systemically eliminates his competitors just to survive. We discuss the collapse of Hollywood’s liberal narrative framework. We explore why Gen Z no longer believes in Harry Potter–style heroism. In an era defined by polarization, atomization, and algorithmic manipulation, how do we find an antidote? Perhaps the answer lies in doing things that feel inefficient but concrete — bringing vegetables to a neighbor, telling a story slowly and carefully. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 什么是“匮乏感”?它不只是缺钱,而是对未来失去信心。当希望消失,欲望会转化为愤怒和犬儒。 05:30 从《无路可逃》和《爱丁顿》说起。当资源紧缩,他人变成路障。传统“供养者”男性叙事在现代系统中崩塌。 12:11 自由主义叙事开始失效。观众厌倦好莱坞的说教,《The Studio》揭示的是文化工业的瘫痪与精英脱节。 23:36 代际断裂。为什么 Gen Z 对《哈利波特》那种九十年代式的乐观主义越来越无感,Gen Z 成长于极化与停滞之中,不再相信善恶分明的世界。 36:00 我们开始怀旧:布拉德·皮特和《F1》是一个典型例子,电影构建了一个没有政治争议、只有输赢规则的世界。传统男性气概重新被召唤。你爹还是你爹。这种叙事满足了人们对确定性的渴望,也提供了一种逃避复杂现实的方式。 47:50 性别角色回潮。《爱情盲选》和 tradwife 现象反映了在极化时代中对安全感的表演式追寻。 55: 50 AI 并未带来连接,反而放大分裂,我们开始怀疑“科技救世”的神话。《神奇四侠》中的技术乐观主义不复存在。 1:23:30 西方社会 生活成本危机加剧匮乏感。算法利用焦虑制造争吵,社交网络赛博巴尔干化是什么? 1:35:30 结语 拒绝犬儒,从具体行动开始。真实的连接或许是对抗虚无的唯一方式。 00:00 What is “scarcity”? It’s not just financial lack, but a loss of faith in the future. When hope disappears, desire turns into anger and cynicism. 05:30 We begin with No Other Choice and Eddington. As resources shrink, other people become obstacles. The traditional male “provider” narrative collapses within the modern system. 12:11 The liberal narrative loses its grip. Audiences are exhausted by Hollywood moralizing. The Studio exposes paralysis within the cultural industry and its detachment from ordinary life. 23:36 A generational rupture. Why Gen Z no longer connects with 1990s optimism like Harry Potter. Raised amid polarization and stagnation, they no longer believe in a morally clear world. 36:00 We turn to nostalgia. Brad Pitt and F1 serve as a key example. The film constructs a world without political conflict — only winners and losers. Traditional masculinity is revived. “Daddy is still daddy.” It satisfies a longing for certainty and offers escape from complexity. 47:50 The return of gender roles. Love Is Blind and the tradwife phenomenon reflect a performative search for safety in a polarized age. 55:50 AI did not bring connection; it amplified division. We begin to question the myth of technological salvation. The technological optimism of Fantastic Four no longer holds. 1:23:30 The Western cost-of-living crisis deepens scarcity. Algorithms exploit anxiety and manufacture endless conflict. What does cyber-Balkanization of social networks mean? 1:35:30 Conclusion. Reject cynicism and begin with concrete action. Real human connection may be the only antidote to nihilism. 【拓展链接 The Links】 阿花: Beyond the Machine: Creative agency in the AI landscape Personal canon by Celine Nguyen Remaking Liberalism: The Past, Present, and Future of Freedom by Daron Acemoglu and Simon Johnson 配图:从1998年开始的价格变化 [Screenshot 2026-02-19 at 02.28.11.png] 影视/剧集: 电影《无路可逃》(No Other Choice / The AX) 电影《爱丁顿》(Eddington) 电影《F1》 电影《神奇四侠》(Fantastic 4) 剧集《The Studio》 真人秀《爱情盲选》(Love is Blind) 剧集《Abbott Elementary》 书籍/人物/概念: Daron Acemoglu (经济学家) Hanif Abdurraqib (作家/诗人) Tradwife (传统家庭主妇风潮) Cyber-Balkanization (赛博巴尔干化) Identity Politics (身份政治) 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. 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076 | 冬季氛围检查:2025年度盘点之可以可以我不行了 2025 Annual Review感谢金主妈妈Tims咖啡机! 点击专属购买链接 【聊了什么The What】 实在是不好解释,把图放在这里大家自己体会吧。 IYKYK [image.png] 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:32 - 重大发现——12月末是星期天晚上(虽然发节目的时间已经到了一月底,请别介意) * 05:43 - 年度总结框架 * 06:58 - 卧槽:政治极化坟墓上跳舞的Eddington * 9:56 - 我操我不行了:A Simple Accident * 11:22 - 可以可以:电影Sorry Baby * 15:29 - 可以可以:在西湖喝茶 * 22:33 - 我不行了:日语学不下去 * 26:15 - 我不行了:补课罗马史 * 35:24 - 卧槽我不行了:韩娱饭圈 * 40:28 - 卧槽我不行了:那不勒斯四部曲 * 43:46 - 卧槽可以可以:今年看过的一些非虚构 * 45:38 - 我操我不行了可以可以:戛纳电影节 * 47:38 - 我不行了可以可以:2025 年看山河故人别有风味 * 54:58 - 我操我不行了可以可以:Chichu Art Museum和James Turrell的艺术 * 66:22 - 我操我不行了可以可以:简中“反清复明”阴谋论宇宙 * 68:25 - 我操我不行了可以可以:西非舞 * 75:44 - 我操我不行了可以可以:医疗剧 The Pitt * 01:32 – Major discovery: late December feels like Sunday night (even though the episode drops in late January—please don’t mind us) * 05:43 – Year-end recap framework * 06:58 – Holy Shit: Eddington — dancing on the grave of political polarization * 09:56 – I can’t with this: A Simple Accident * 11:22 – Okay okay okay: Sorry Baby * 15:29 – Okay okay okay: drinking tea at West Lake * 22:33 – I can’t with this: Japanese is no longer happening * 26:15 – I can’t with this: crash-course on Roman history * 35:24 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this: K-pop fandom culture * 40:28 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this: The Neapolitan Novels (the four-book series) * 43:46 – Holy Shit, okay okay okay: some nonfiction reads from this year * 45:38 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: Cannes Film Festival * 47:38 – I can’t with this, okay okay okay: watching Mountains May Depart in 2025 hits differently * 54:58 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: Chichu Art Museum & the art of James Turrell * 66:22 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: the Simplified-Chinese internet’s “Restore the Ming Dynasty” conspiracy universe * 68:25 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: West African dance * 75:44 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: the medical drama The Pitt 【拓展链接】 小杨 * Sorry Baby * It’s just an accident * The Pitt 小蓝 * Ulysses * Everyday is for the thief * Intermezzo * 那不勒斯四部曲 * Ailey Studios的西非舞传奇老师 一芳 * Strike, Labor Unions, and Resistance in the Roman Empire * Careless People * MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios 阿花 * 西方文化的传统与演进 * Rome * Cleopatra * 万历十五年 * 山河故人 🎉【听众专属福利】 感谢金主妈妈Tims咖啡机! * 一机三用:胶囊 / 意式 / 美式自由切换,工作日效率 & 周末仪式感全拿下 * 18 秒速热 + 1 分钟出杯:告别排队,随时来杯好咖啡 * 专业级萃取:预浸泡+精准控温,油脂更厚、风味更稳 * 小巧便携:露营、办公室都合适 * 充插两用 :续航久,静音安全,用得安心 无论自用还是过年过节送给爱咖啡的朋友入门,都是非常实用的选择。现在领取节目专属优惠,还能额外叠加平台优惠和限时国补福利,到手更划算,店内下单还送咖啡分仓、胶囊仓、压粉勺以及送Tims门店同款咖啡胶囊! 点击进入专属购买链接: 淘宝:https://mo.m.tmall.com/page/36896811?shop_id=514425481&item_id=964840038255 京东:https://pro.m.jd.com/mall/active/fo1WF7YzJTMBkifnugBJKS4J9se/index.html 复制淘口令:77¥LFTnU7rWjpb¥ / MF937 淘宝搜索:“TimHortons〞 找到【TimHortons小家电旗舰店】向客服报暗号“疲惫娇娃“即可获得专属链接! [image.png] 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
075 | 「哈姆内特」:我们这一代有自己的莎士比亚 Is Hamnet Shakespeare for Millennials【聊了什么The What】 这期节目,我们聊了新片《Hamnet》:一部改编自 Maggie O’Farrell 同名小说的故事,并聊了聊它为什么能让人哭到崩溃(或完全哭不出来但仍然狠狠爱上),聊到它那种带点神秘主义、符号化的拍法如何制造出希腊悲剧式的宣泄/净化。 我们也不可避免的想起了之前聊过的Wifedom。这是另一个文学巨擘榨干身边女性的故事吗?还是他讲述了一个超脱语境、触及人类隽永生死问题的经典悲剧?把女性与自然、草药、预言、女巫气质连在一起,是一种温柔的赋权,还是另一种更古老的陷阱?艺术究竟是在表演痛苦,还是在替人类提供一种“活下去的解释”?归根结底,在2025年重拍莎士比亚是很需要勇气的;赵婷交出的答卷你们满意吗? In this episode, we discuss o̶u̶r̶ ̶f̶a̶v̶o̶r̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶n̶e̶p̶o̶ ̶b̶a̶b̶y̶ Chloé Zhao’s new feature film Hamnet, adapted from the novel of the same name by Maggie O’Farrell. We explore why it can make you cry uncontrollably (or not cry at all and still fall deeply in love with it), and how its mystical, symbolic filmmaking evokes a Greek tragedy-like catharsis. It is hard not to draw comparison with Wifedom, which we’ve talked about in the past. Is this yet another story of a literary giant draining the life out of the women around him? Or is it a timeless tragedy that transcends context to speak to the eternal human questions of life and death? When women are linked with nature, herbs, prophecy, and witch-like qualities—is it a gentle form of empowerment, or an older, more insidious trap? Is art merely performing pain, or is it offering humanity a way to keep going? Ultimately, remaking Shakespeare in 2025 takes courage—did Chloé Zhao deliver? 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:02:22 《Hamnet》、演员阵容、TIFF 口碑 * 00:04:46 四个女的的初印象(以及不同的哭晕程度) * 00:13:37 文学巨擘背后被隐身的女人:与《Wifedom》的文脉相通 * 00:21:10 除了审判隐身的丈夫,或许我们还能讲点别的故事 * 00:29:18 自然叙事:女性/土地的连结与争议 * 00:37:16 Le Guin、女巫叙事与男权结构的回声 * 00:48:18 “To be or not to be”:没看懂也没关系 * 00:59:50 结尾的半圆镜头:为什么人类要讲故事 * 01:06:16 “人生三苦”:理解痛苦不等于失去情感 * 00:02:22 Chloé Zhao’s Hamnet, cast, and TIFF reception * 00:04:46 First impressions from four women (and varying levels of emotional breakdown) * 00:13:37 The invisible woman behind the literary giant: connections to Wifedom * 00:21:10 Beyond judging the hidden husband—maybe there are other stories we can tell * 00:29:18 Nature narratives: the contested link between women and land * 00:37:16 Le Guin, witch storytelling, and echoes of patriarchy * 00:48:18 “To be or not to be”: it’s okay if you don’t understand it * 00:59:50 The final half-circle shot: why humans tell stories * 01:06:16 The “three sufferings” of life: understanding pain doesn’t mean feeling less 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Hamnet: A Novel of the Plague * Hamnet Book Club * Wifedom * The New Yorker对赵婷的采访 * Oh Brother! The Jupes Get Shakespearean 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
074 | 「一战再战」:告别宏大叙事,拥抱日常英雄 Beyond Grand Narratives, Toward Everyday Heroes【聊了什么The What】 本期节目,我们与哲学家袁源、友台美轮美换主播Lokin一同过度解读了保罗·托马斯·安德森(Paul Thomas Anderson)很有嚼劲的新作《一战再战》。这部电影是让小杨“撇着嘴进去,真香着出来”的年度惊喜,也是袁源觉得十分“就这”的陈词滥调。我们从加缪的《反叛者》出发,探讨暴力革命的伦理困境:当“妇人之仁”成为罪行,对抽象理念的狂热是否必然以牺牲具体的人为代价?Perfidia是一个挑战观众道德底线的反英雄,还是一位被男性凝视和刻板印象所困的复杂女性?Perfidia式的、为“爽”而战的景观式革命的反面,是否是Sensei式的、根植于邻里互助的日常英雄主义? For this episode, we invited philosopher Yuan Yuan and Lokin to join us in over-interpreting Paul Thomas Anderson’s chewy new film One Battle After Another. It’s a movie that some of us walked into with doubts and walked out of utterly charmed, while others find it to be a thoroughly “meh” bundle of clichés. Starting from Camus’s The Rebel, we dig into the ethical dilemmas of revolutionary violence: when “womanly compassion” becomes a crime, does fervor for an abstract ideal inevitably demand the sacrifice of concrete human lives? Is Perfidia a boundary-pushing anti-hero who defies our moral expectations, or a complex woman trapped within male gaze and stereotype? And if Perfidia’s spectacle-driven, pleasure-forward revolution is one end of the spectrum, is its opposite the Sensei style—an everyday heroism grounded in neighborly mutual aid? 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00 电影《一战再战》剧情速览和第一印象 * 10:23 为何将60年代的革命美学平移到2008年让人“不买账”? * 22:34 暴力革命的道德思辨:电影中的革命行动是否满足“正义的目标”、“必要性”与“相称性”? * 31:33 Perfidia是刻板印象还是反英雄? * 54:12 Willa打破父辈创伤的循环了吗? * 58:03 “非盈利蛇头”Sensei和日常的英雄主义 * 67:07 对白人至上主义的辛辣讽刺 * 78:47 结局:这也能大团圆 * 00:00 Quick plot recap of One Battle After Another and our initial reactions * 10:23 Why does transplanting 1960s revolutionary aesthetics into 2008 feel so unconvincing? * 22:34 Moral reasoning around violent revolution: do the film’s actions satisfy “just cause,” “necessity,” and “proportionality”? * 31:33 Perfidia: sexualized or anti-hero? * 54:12 Does Willa break the cycle of her parents’ trauma? * 58:03 The “non-profit coyote” Sensei and the quiet heroism of the everyday * 67:07 A sharp satire of white supremacism * 78:47 The ending: …so this counts as a happy ending? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Liberalism in Dark Times: The Liberal Ethos in the Twentieth Century * The Rebel: An Essay on Man in Revolt * Vineland 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
073 | KATSEYE:你有这样高速运转的K-Pop造星机器进入美国 All Eyes on KATSEYE and K-Pop's Global Expansion【聊了什么The What】 本期节目,小蓝和小杨将自己“逼到墙角”,聊一聊让我们甘心情愿入坑的国际K-Pop女团KATSEYE。这个由六个截然不同的文化背景、肤色成员组成的团体出道曲成绩优异,而且靠hyperpop单曲“Gnarly”迅速出圈,已经成为美国炙手可热的新人偶像。她们身上那种“全校最漂亮的mean girls跟你天下第一好”的鲜活与“有病又有梗”的魅力与以往的女团相比更松弛、自由。 但同时,KATSEYE也代表着K-pop全球扩张战略“质变”的一个成功样本——HYBE和Geffin Records强强联手不仅是韩美资本的一场盛大联姻,更是一个将K-pop工业化造星体系移植到美国本土的庞大实验。我们跟随着出道纪录片《Popstar Academy》,见证这场巨大的“楚门秀”如何将活生生、充满棱角的女孩们锻造成精美的商品。在这套精密运作的资本逻辑下,“人”与“商品”的边界变得模糊,友谊、梦想与自我认同被撕裂,作为娱乐献祭给全球观众。从成员选拔中无法掩盖的地缘政治与种族“拼色游戏”,到闵熙珍与HYBE的冲突所揭示的平台垄断与创作者困境,我们探讨K-pop这套“反人性”却极致高效的体系在全球复制时,究竟是在输出文化,还是在输出一套更精密的规训与控制? In this episode, Xiao Lan and Xiao Yang dive into KATSEYE, the international K-pop girl group that's completely hooked us. This six-member group debuted to chart success and broke into the mainstream with hyperpop single "Gnarly." They radiate a chaotic, meme-able charm—"the prettiest mean girls who are also ride-or-die for you"—that feels more relaxed and subversive than previous girl groups. But KATSEYE also represents K-pop's global expansion "qualitative shift." The HYBE and Geffen Records collaboration transplants K-pop's industrialized star-making system onto American soil. Their Netflix documentary Popstar Academy was a "Truman Show" forging strong personalities into polished products, where the line between "person" and "commodity" blurs. From market-driven diversity in member selection to Min Hee-jin's conflict with HYBE exposing creator struggles, we ask: is K-pop exporting culture—or a sophisticated apparatus of exploitation and control? 【时间轴 The When】 * 02:32 - 04:55 - KATSEYE 是个什么样的女团? * 04:55 - 10:49 - Gnarly歌曲制作中加入不雅声音引发的巨大争议,行业应该如何对待未成年偶像 * 10:49 - 13:30 - KATSEYE成员台上和台下的反差魅力,“发疯”的Gen-Z女团来整顿韩娱了 * 13:30 - 18:47 - 纪录片《Popstar Academy》的“楚门秀”式选秀、K-pop严苛的训练体系如何与美国文化碰撞 * 18:47 - 28:31 - Manon的角色弧光与争议:不努力是偶像最大的原罪吗? * 28:31 - 45:19 - 选秀的残酷本质、地缘政治与种族配额:国籍、市场等因素如何决定谁能出道 * 45:19 - 53:37 - HYBE x Geffen资本联姻背后的商业模式、全球扩张野心 * 53:37 - 59:19 - NEWJEANS 的官司里闵熙珍与HYBE的争议是创新、复制与控制权的根本矛盾 * 59:19 - 69:54 - K-pop的造星方法论走向世界的过程中会去芜存菁吗? * 02:32 - 04:55 - Who is KATSEYE? The Korean-American entertainment powerhouse deal behind the group * 04:55 - 10:49 - The "Gnarly" controversy: Why explicit sounds in the track sparked massive backlash * 10:49 - 13:30 - KATSEYE's duality: How this "unhinged" Gen-Z girl group is disrupting K-pop norms * 13:30 - 18:47 - Popstar Academy's reality TV manipulation and K-pop's brutal training system meets American culture * 18:47 - 28:31 - Manon's journey and the backlash: Is "not trying hard enough" the ultimate idol crime? * 28:31 - 45:19 - Beyond talent: How geopolitics, racial quotas, and market appeal really determine who debuts * 45:19 - 53:37 - HYBE × Geffen: Unpacking the business strategy and global ambitions * 53:37 - 59:19 - The NewJeans conflict: Innovation vs. imitation and the battle for creative control * 59:19 - 69:54 - Can K-pop's factory system evolve as it goes global—or will it just export the same problems? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * The fued between Min Hee-Jin (NJZ) and HYBE, a timeline * "Gnarly" MV * KATSEYE 的综艺(Warning: 很吵) * ”Machine Girl“ 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
072 | 秋季氛围检查:失去全世界,收获爱尔兰 Fall Vibe Check: Losing the World, Gaining Ireland感谢金主妈妈妙界按摩仪!点击专属购买链接: https://mo.m.tmall.com/page/36553111?shop_id=227373533&item_id=720388007073 【聊了什么The What】 新的毫无养分的氛围检查来了——几个女的们观察世界的宏观状态之后,决定一起和大家进入秋冬季节,并且开启“安心做废物”的模式。 另外,最近互联网充斥着AI Generated Slop(AI生成的垃圾内容),鉴于这个状况不容忽视,我们人工生成了一些纯天然的垃圾内容。希望你听完依旧一点东西都没有学到! Here comes another vibe check with zero nutritional value—after observing the world’s current macro state, a few women decided to ease into the autumn-winter season by collectively embracing the mindset of “being at peace with being a little useless.” Also, the internet is now overflowing with AI Generated Slop. In response, we couldn’t just sit back and do nothing. So, we used our actual brains to produce some organic human generated slop. Here’s to another joyful useless hour of pure vibes! 【时间轴 The When】 03:55 - 小蓝的上头:爱尔兰是好地方,一共有50个人,大家都相互认识对方 19:52 - 一芳的下头:我们如何理解Taylor Swift新专辑中的矛盾信息?霉霉你还好吗 41:16 - 小杨的上头:权志龙居然有新粉,新粉居然是我,以及爱豆和粉丝之间的关系或许应当是平等的? 48:53 - 妙界按摩仪救救我们的颈椎,请大家也用上,谢谢大家 52:03 - 花酱的上头:《暮光之城》文艺复兴,荣光归来,吸血鬼emo爱情故事如何在我们的前额叶长好以后重新归来 03:55 - Xiaolan’s high: Ireland is a great place, only 50 people live there and they all know each other 19:52 - Yifang’s low: How do we make sense of the contradictions in Taylor Swift’s new album? Taylor, are you okay? 41:16 - Xiaoyang’s high: G-Dragon, and why idols and fans should be equals 48:53 - A massager that saved our stiff necks and you should try it too 52:03 - Hana high: The Twilight Renaissance—the vampires are back; how emo vampire love stories hit differently once your prefrontal cortex is fully developed 【拓展链接 The Links】 这篇纽约客文章分析了Gossip Girl这部小说的精妙的创作 No Good Art Comes From Greed BigBang的花路 🎉【听众专属福利】 感谢金主妈妈妙界按摩仪拯救我们疲惫生活的疲惫颈椎! [Screenshot 2025-10-25 at 01.04.03.png] ✔ 8D仿人手揉捏,精准放松肌肉 ✔ 四种按摩模式,其中大师模式,媲美专业按摩 ✔ 升级艾灸碳模式,热敷艾灸缓解疲惫 ✔ 小巧便携,无限设计,全身可用 ✔一键操作,添加语音播报功能,自用送礼都合适 有需要的听友们快使用以下三种方式,获得专属购买福利吧: 1、点击进入专属购买链接:https://equity.taobao.com/tm?agentId=045c13081b0c4030&bc_fl_src=tmall_market_llb_1_2784288&llbPlatform=_pube&llbOsd=1 2、复制淘口令:78¥kLPbf1ZsHk8¥ / CZ225 3、在淘宝搜索:“妙界〞 找到【妙界旗舰店】向客服报暗号“疲惫娇娃“即可获得专属链接。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
071 | Vibe Shift 三部曲:保守女性气质的回潮 The Return of Conservative Femininity【聊了什么The What】 在“女权疲劳”与“woke倦怠”之后,美国流行文化正在经历一场“女性气质”的回潮(Vibe Shift):保守女性气质重新流行起来。本期节目我们深入聊了姐妹会文化、MAGA美妆、还有TikTok上那些看似“非政治”的倡导健康生活的视频,是如何一步步把女性重新绑回“温柔、克制、顺从”的模子里,在无形中复活了反女性主义的观念。从阿拉巴马大学的 Bama Rush 现象到 Sydney Sweeney 的“cool girl”形象,这场Vibe Shift不仅是审美的变化,更是一种政治与文化的再编码,当流行文化把政治意识形态与个人价值混为一谈,什么样的女性故事被放大,又有哪些被抹去? As part two of our Vibe Shift Trilogy, this episode dives into the return of conservative femininity in American pop culture today. We dive into pop culture moments such as Bama Rush, MAGA beauty trends on TikTok, the rise of wellness influencers and how their “apolitical” content is quietly reviving anti-feminist ideals of the olden days. The vibe shift isn’t just about aesthetics, but a recoding of culture and politics. In this shift, we question what kinds of stories of womanhood get amplified — and which are erased? 【时间轴 The When】 * 1:30: Sydney Sweeney 牛仔裤广告的争议,保守派审美的回归 * 8:00 “男人圈” vs “女人圈” 文化是如何通过健身、美容等“非政治”话题,随后逐渐渗入反女性主义和厌女的意识形态。 * 11:20 女人圈的健康类头部播客如何散播保守女性主义,“健康 = 美丽 = 道德” * 14:20 自由派女性叙事倦怠,保守叙事趁虚而入 * 23:48 从Bama Rush大学姐妹会文化来看美国南方保守主义的女性理想 * 38:44 保守叙事下新一代女性的人生理想是如何变成寻找值得依靠的伴侣 * 1:30 Sydney Sweeney and her jeans/genes and the return of the conservative femininity * 8:00 – “manosphere” vs “womanosphere” cultures use seemingly non-political topics like fitness and beauty to gradually introduce anti-feminist and misogynistic ideologies * 11:20 – top women’s health podcasts in the “womanosphere” spread conservative femininity, promoting the idea that “Health = Beauty = Morality” * 14:20 – Fatigue with liberal female narratives opens the door for conservative messaging * 23:48 – Examining ideals of Southern conservative femininity through Bama Rush and Greek life * 38:44 – The reinvention of the feminist ideal: securing a reliable partner and what that means for society 【拓展链接 The Links】 社会学家Anne Helen Petersen关于Bama Rush的文章,链接 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
070 | Vibe Shift 三部曲:被社交媒体撕裂的爱丁顿 Eddington Under Siege【聊了什么The What】 这期节目我们聊了Ari Aster的最新电影《爱丁顿》(Eddington)——一部让人看完想骂街,但又忍不住要深度分析的作品。这位以《仲夏夜惊魂》和《遗传厄运》闻名的导演,这次把镜头对准了2020年5月疫情初期的美国小镇,用西部片的外壳包装了一个关于社交媒体如何撕裂社群的恐怖故事。Joaquin Phoenix饰演的老派警长Joe Cross和Pedro Pascal饰演的自由派市长在这个巴掌大的新墨西哥小镇展开政治对决,而真正的赢家却是那个从头到尾都面目模糊的科技巨头——他们要在这里建数据中心。我们从这部极具争议性的电影聊开去,探讨了BLM运动的社交媒体化、取消文化的游戏规则、以及阴谋论如何在小镇邻里间传播。最终发现,当所有人都在网上吵成一团的时候,真正的危机——AI和大科技公司——已经悄悄占领了现实世界。 This episode we dove into Ari Aster's latest film "Eddington"—a movie that'll make you want to throw things at the screen, but also can't stop you from obsessively analyzing every frame. The director behind "Midsommar" and "Hereditary" sets his sights on a fictional small American town during the early pandemic chaos of May 2020, wrapping a horror story about social media tearing communities apart in Western film genre. Joaquin Phoenix's old-school sheriff Joe Cross goes head-to-head with Pedro Pascal's liberal mayor in this tiny New Mexico town, while the real winner turns out to be the faceless tech giant that's been planning to build a data center there all along. We used this deeply polarizing film to unpack everything from how BLM got weaponized on social media, to the toxic rules of cancel culture, to how conspiracy theories spread like wildfire through small-town neighbor networks. The ending is both alarming and defeatist: while everyone was busy fighting online, the real crisis—AI and Big Tech—had already quietly taken over. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00 - Vibe Shift:从Covid到现在的时代精神转向 * 02:32 - Ari Aster这一次拍了个什么片? * 06:45 - 小镇警长和自由派精英的对决导演拉偏架了吗? * 15:45 - BLM运动的社交媒体化和"good trouble"的商品化 * 22:22 - 社交媒体游戏规则如何让所有人"吃相难看" * 34:24 - 创伤如何成为舆论场的货币 * 38:55 - 小蓝的"假新闻田野调查" * 45:19 - 电影结局的虚无主义倾向 * 48:19 - "SolidGoldMagikarp"彩蛋 * 52:18 - AI数据中心对美国小镇的真实影响 * 58:02 - 艺术家有权创作"残忍"艺术吗? * 1:10:00 - 爱丁顿里的真实社会议题 * 00:00 - Vibe Shift: Zeitgeist transformation from pandemic to now * 02:32 - Film plot overview: Political showdown in a New Mexico town * 06:45 - Did Ari Aster put his thumb on the scale in the fight between the sheriff and the mayor * 15:45 - The social media-ization of BLM and commodification of "good trouble" * 22:22 - How social media rules make everyone look bad * 34:24 - How trauma becomes currency in the discourse * 38:55 - Xiao Lan's "fake news field research" * 45:19 - The film's nihilistic ending * 48:19 - "SolidGoldMagikarp" Easter egg * 52:18 - Real impact of AI data centers on American small towns * 58:02 - Do artists have the right to create "cruel" art? * 1:10:00 - Real social issues plaiguing today's America in "Eddington" 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Film Colossus关于"Solid Gold Magikarp"异常标记的分析文章 * 纽约时报关于数据中心对社区用水影响的报道 * Naomi Klein《Doppelganger》 * Matthew Yglesias"The Great Awokening" 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买杯咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
069 | Kpop猎魔女团:现在的迪士尼公主要工作的 Kpop Demon Hunters are princesses with a dayjob【聊了什么The What】 这个夏天,我们无数次的跟人解释:Netflix的Kpop猎魔女团虽然设定听起来很扯,但真的是好看的。顶流女团的真实身份是猎魔人,而她们的竞争对手(非常工具人的)男团则是一群真正的恶魔,用歌声和粉丝量争夺人类灵魂。我们从这部作品聊开去,探讨它如何超越了新时代的迪士尼公主叙事,创造了一个有工作的、更具代入感的当代女性童年幻想的寄托:和最好的朋友住在一起,拥有穿不完的漂亮衣服,人生最大的困难是和朋友的互相不理解。在一定程度上,对小朋友可能有点太幼稚,但对疲惫的我们正中要害。同时我们也回顾了过去十年 K-Pop 的全球化,从 BTS 在疫情期间的爆红到 Blackpink 登上 Coachella 主舞台;好像体感上今年夏天真的不一样,他们说的“韩流闯美”或许真的来了? This summer, we found ourselves repeatedly explaining to people: like, yes, Netflix’s K-pop Demon Hunters sounds ridiculous on paper, you might even feel ridiculous watching the first 20 minutes — but it’s actually really good. The setup? A top girl group is secretly made up of demon hunters, while their rivals—the boy band—are literal demons battling for human souls through their music and fandom numbers. We used this show as a jumping-off point to explore how it goes beyond the new-generation Disney princess narrative to create a more relatable modern female fantasy—one where you live with your best friends, have endless fabulous outfits, and your biggest challenge in life is misunderstandings between friends. It might feel childish to some, especially for kids, but for us—burned out adults—it hit the emotional sweet spot. We also looked back on a decade of K-pop global expansion, from BTS’s meteoric rise during the pandemic to Blackpink headlining Coachella. This summer feels different. Maybe the “Korean Wave” going global is actually happening? 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:39 - 奇幻首尔里用歌声封印恶魔的猎魔女团HUNTRIX。 * 10:28 - 立体的女性友谊和工具人男团 * 18:35 - K-pop产业的理想化呈现 * 21:26 - 从《降世神通》到现在亚裔创作者主体性的增强 * 27:14 - 保护我们的童年幻想和天经地义的女性友谊 * 42:34 - Kpop在欧美市场主流化了吗? * 00:39 - HUNTRIX: A demon-hunting girl group sealing demons with songs in a fantastical Seoul * 10:28 - Deep female friendships vs. the “utility tool” boy band * 18:35 - The idealized portrayal of the K-pop industry * 21:26 - From Avatar: The Last Airbender to the growing agency of Asian creators * 27:14 - Protecting our childhood fantasies and the naturalness of female friendship * 42:34 - Has K-pop gone mainstream in Western markets? 【拓展链接 The Links】 58 “BTS之父”套现4000亿:韩娱教父的资本骗局遭政治狙击 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
068 | Mountainhead: 未经许可扮演上帝的硅谷精英 Mountainhead and Silicon Valley Elites' God Complex【聊了什么The What】 HBO 新片Mountainhead是《继承之战》编剧 Jesse Armstrong 的导演初作。这一次,他把镜头从东海岸的传媒财阀转向了西海岸的科技巨头。 四位科技界巨头和曾经的好友在犹他州的豪华山庄度周末,外面的世界却因一款 AI 生成工具制造的政治假新闻陷入混乱。他们坐在山顶的别墅中,讨论着权力、技术与人类未来,以及如何延长自己的生命,甚至抵御死亡,上传意识。节目中,我们谈到了科技精英的傲慢与脆弱、有效加速主义(e/acc)在硅谷的兴起、从 All In Podcast 到特朗普就职典礼的科技圈政治野心,以及为什么现实比电影还科幻,却让创作者越来越难以讲述。从HBO关于科技的剧集大火的Silicon Valley到这部同样关于讲述科技圈内部故事的Mountainhead只有短短几年过去了。而太多改变已经发生。 Mountainhead, HBO’s new film, marks the directorial debut of Succession writer Jesse Armstrong. This time, he shifts the camera from East Coast media dynasties to West Coast tech titans. The story follows four former friends and tech moguls spending a weekend at a luxury mountain estate in Utah, while the outside world descends into chaos—triggered by political disinformation generated by an AI tool they helped create. From the comfort of their hilltop villa, they debate power, technology, the future of humanity, and how to prolong their own lives—even resisting death by uploading their consciousness. In this episode, we talk about the arrogance and fragility of tech elites, the rise of Effective Accelerationism (e/acc) in Silicon Valley, the political ambitions of the tech world—from the All-In Podcast to Trump’s inauguration—and why reality has become more sci-fi than fiction, making it harder than ever for creators to tell these stories. Only a few years separate HBO’s Silicon Valley and Mountainhead, but in that short span, the world—and tech—has changed in ways no one could have scripted. 【时间轴 The When】 * 03:39 我们最喜欢的编剧把我们的推特故事线拍成电影了 * 08:15 四位主角是如何“缝合”现实中的硅谷大佬们? * 15:56 硅谷意识形态的转变:从商业逻辑到宗教信仰 * 32:29 科技大佬的权力渴望与“大教堂”、“创始人主权”、“Luxury Belief” * 42:30 渴望权力,却又想逃避责任的Tech Bro文化 * 54:29 警惕权力的新外衣与我们应有的警惕 * 03:39 Our favorite screenwriter turns our Twitter storylines into a movie * 08:15 How the four protagonists are “stitched together” from real-life Silicon Valley moguls * 15:56 The ideological shift in Silicon Valley: from business logic to religious belief * 32:29 Tech elites’ thirst for power: “The Cathedral,” “Founder Sovereignty,” and “Luxury Beliefs” * 42:30 The Tech Bro dilemma—craving power while dodging responsibility * 54:29 The new disguise of power and why we must remain vigilant 【拓展链接 The Links】 * [Peter Thiel被问到“你希望人类继续持续下去对吧?”的迟疑爆红视频] * 小华提到的漫画:“参议院的老板们”——1889 [image.png] 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
067|「片场风云」:好莱坞的自黑与自救 The Studio: Hollywood's Self-Deprecation and Redemption【聊了什么The What】 Apple TV+ 的新剧The Studio《片场风云》是一个意想不到的亮点。它是Seth Rogen创作的剧集,是一部用讽刺和结构解构整个娱乐工业的黑色喜剧。这个剧也是近年以来我们看过的最生动、最好笑、最让人尴尬、最不怕自黑的剧集。它还精准还原了电影内容行业的虚荣和危机和在这样畸形结构中的人如何自处,以及让我们去思考当下的影视工业的在科技行业和流媒体的冲击下,未来会是怎样。另外来自小蓝的抱歉:我的录制环境特别差,对不起大家座机音质! Apple TV+'s new show The Studio is an unexpected highlight. It's a Seth Rogen-created show, a dark comedy that deconstructs the entire entertainment industry with satire and structure. The show is also one of the most vivid, funny, cringe-inducing, and unafraid of self-hatred episodes we've seen in recent years. It also accurately restores the vanity and crisis of the movie content industry and how people in such a monstrous structure can live with themselves, as well as making us think about what the future of the current movie and television industry's will look like in light of the tech industry and streaming media. 【时间轴 The When】 03:59 我们为什么喜欢《片场风云》Why are we obsessed with the studio 07:14 展开说说 The Oner(第二集2)Let’s dive into the Oner (ep 2) 14:52 我们对Matt Remick怎么看? Is the studio head a hapless hero? Diving into Matt Remick’s character 17:20 千禧一代掌权成为草台班子本台的困境 When the millennial worker becomes an executive 23:42 《片场风云》的女配角们 The fantastic supporting ensemble of the Studio 35:52 Kool-aid Movie和文化IP The Kool-aid Movie and what it says about IP movies 39:50 Kool-aid Movie 选角与电影中的政治正确 how to balance ‘wokeness’ in casting 46:24 金球奖 The Golden Globes episode 49:54 危及好莱坞存在的才是真正的反派 Who’s the real villain threatening the film industry? 52:52 好莱坞何去何从?Where does Hollywood go from here? 【拓展链接 The Links】 纽约客讲《芭比》的文章 “The Studio” Pokes Fun at Hollywood’s Existential Struggle 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
066|安多第二季:帝国的边缘,革命的代价 Andor Season 2: The Edge of Empire and the Cost of Revolution【聊了什么The What】 在一个充满官僚主义的银河帝国中,革命究竟意味着什么?当理想主义者遭遇现实的残酷,"正义"与"邪恶"的界限是否真的那么清晰?从Luthen的革命理念到Dedra的极权思维,剧集以令人不安的方式探讨了权力、反抗与人性的本质。 革命的本质是什么?它需要什么样的代价和牺牲?从卢森的马基雅维利式的组织者形象,到帝国完美官僚的非人性,再到太空法国的群众运动,《安多》探讨了反抗与压迫、个人与集体、理想与现实之间的复杂关系。 Andor Season 2 is a unique work in the Star Wars universe that features no lightsabers, Force powers, or chosen ones, instead focusing on marginalized characters and the imperial bureaucracy. The series tells the story of how the Empire was overthrown, showcasing the desperation of ordinary people, cracks within the Empire, and the real cost of rebellion. As "a prequel to a prequel" of the original Star Wars trilogy, Andor Season 2 ends by seamlessly transitioning into the film Rogue One, revealing these characters' ultimate fates. The show explores several thought-provoking themes: Is the nature of revolution romantic idealism or bloody reality? How does the Empire's propaganda machine justify colonization and genocide through stereotypes and inciting hatred? How do characters like Luther and Dedra represent different facets of revolution and oppression? Perhaps most importantly, in an age of rampant social media where everyone claims to possess "the truth," how can we discern the reality of history? 【时间轴 The When】 3:59 我们为什么喜欢《片场风云》Why are we obsessed with the studio 7:14 展开说说 The Oner(第二集2)Let’s dive into the Oner (ep 2) 14:52 我们对Matt Remick怎么看? Is the studio head a hapless hero? Diving into Matt Remick’s character 17:20 千禧一代掌权成为草台班子本台的困境 When the millennial worker becomes an executive 23:42 《片场风云》的女配角们 The fantastic supporting ensemble of the Studio 35:52 Kool-aid Movie和文化IP The Kool-aid Movie and what it says about IP movies 39:50 Kool-aid Movie 选角与电影中的政治正确 how to balance ‘wokeness’ in casting 46:24 金球奖 The Golden Globes episode 49:54 危及好莱坞存在的才是真正的反派 Who’s the real villain threatening the film industry? 52:52 好莱坞何去何从?Where does Hollywood go from here? 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
065|去戛纳,吃了点细糠 Our Cannes 2025 Recap【聊了什么The What】 疲惫娇娃来戛纳电影节了!本期节目发自南法,娃们五天集中看了快二十部电影,本期节目和大家分享我们看片(工作)的心路历程,我们心中的金棕榈影片,以及当今世界电影创作的一些思考。本节目录制于5月22日,此刻我们还有三部电影没看,包括毕赣的《狂野时代》。更多戛纳趣闻,新闻发布会内容,以及最后一天观影的影评,请关注我们的小红书! Your favorite CyberPink gals reporting live from the Cannes film festival! We watched almost 20 movies in the span of 5 days, the range was truly from highest to lowest. In this episode we unpack all the movies by category, highlight our Palme d’Or picks, and muse on the current state of the world and the stories that films are telling. This episode was recorded on May 22nd, so it does not include our reviews for the final day of films. Please head over to our Xiaohongshu for these additional reviews and extra behind the scenes content! 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00 我们在戛纳的感受和吐槽 * 06:05 “戛纳影评人口碑解禁” 《风林火山》翻了个大的 * 09:15 我们此次看过的18部电影大致分成四类 * 10:33 第一类:”法西斯主义不行“;巴西电影《密探》影评 * 13:50 反抗极权的老登埃及电影《共和之鹰》影评 * 16:37 我们心中的金棕榈选手伊朗电影《普通事故》影评,极有力量的作品 * 27:00 第二类:”女性生命体验“;意大利电影《外面》影评 * 31:57 斯嘉丽·约翰逊演而优则导的第一部作品”Elenor the Great” 影评 * 35:47 日本女导演早川千惠关于家庭、死亡的电影《雷诺阿》影评 * 37:44 西班牙女导演卡拉·西蒙关于寻亲的半自传电影《朝圣》“Romeria”影评 * 43:12 求求导演再剪一个版本出来—《花漾少女杀人事件》影评 * 48:44 讲述波兰保姆故事的以色列电影《妈妈》和感官电影《阿尔法》 * 50:09 第三类:“成瘾物质“;让我们意外非常喜欢的法国电影《陨石》影评 * 53:47 一句话影评《时光留声》谢谢太太找两个帅哥把BL文拍成电影 * 54:10 一句话影评哥伦比亚电影《诗人》,意外喜欢的细糠 * 55:06 第四类:一些风格化电影和商业片《天国与地狱》,《幸福之路》,《腓尼基阴谋》 * 56:05 关于极化公共讨论的美国电影《艾丁顿》影评 * 58:05 金棕榈二号种子关于家庭、艺术、原谅的挪威电影《情感价值》,细糠!推荐! * 00:00 first impressions and rants about Cannes film festival * 06:05 “Cannes reviews embargo lifted” — Juno Mak’s Sons of the Neon Night crashed and burned * 09:15 The 18 films we watched can be roughly grouped into four categories * 10:33 Category 1: “Fascism is bad” — Review of Brazilian film The Secret Agent * 13:50 a movie about resisting authoritarianism, but too much of an old man “know-it-all” POV — Review of Egyptian film Eagles of the Republic * 16:37 Our personal Palme d'Or pick — Iranian film by director Jafar Panahi, A Simple Accident, a powerful work * 27:00 Category 2: “Women's life experiences” — Review of Italian film Fuori * 31:57 Scarlett Johansson’s directorial debut Elenor the Great * 35:47 Japanese director Chihiro Hayakawa’s film on family and death Renoir * 37:44 Semi-autobiographical Spanish film about searching for family — Romería by Carla Simón * 43:12 Begging this director to release a new cut — Review of Girl on Edge * 48:44 Israeli film Mama about a Polish nanny, and the sensory experience of Alpha * 50:09 Category 3: “Addictive substances” (substance abuse) — Surprise favorite: French film Meteor * 53:47 One-sentence review: History of Sound — Thanks to the director for casting two hot guys to make a BL film * 54:10 One-sentence review: Colombian film Un Poeta — unexpectedly liked this subtle gem * 55:06 Category 4: the “other” category, including highly stylized and commercial films — Highest to Lowest, Lucky Lu, Phoenician Scheme * 56:05 Review of American film Eddington, about the polarization of public discourse * 58:05 our Palme d’Or runner up — Norwegian film Sentimental Value, on family, art, and forgiveness. A gem! Highly recommended! 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
064 | 秘密会议:传统、权力、和当今的寓言 Conclave: A parable of our time【2025戛纳电影节 2025 Cannes Film Festival】 节目开始之前,和大家说一声,疲惫娇娃的几个女的已经空降戛纳参加电影节了!请关注我们的同名小红书账号看来自戛纳的更新。 We have landed in Cannes for the film festival! Follow us on Xiaohongshu for more updates from Cannes. 【聊了什么 The What】 本期疲惫娇娃,我们聊的是2024年的电影Conclave ——一部设定在教皇去世之后、围绕选出新一任教皇展开的电影。在这部由Edward Berger执导、Ralph Fiennes主演的作品中,观众得以窥见那场始终被神秘包围的梵蒂冈教皇选举:密室中的拉票、权力的计算、秘密的揭露,以及制度对个人的塑形与反噬。 我们从电影谈起,延伸到对天主教会体制的讨论:它如何用神圣维系秩序,又如何将改革压制在传统之下。影片中的主角们不仅是宗教人物,更是复杂的政治人类;而那些隐于画面边缘的修女、工作人员,则承载着最深的情感张力与结构性的沉默。 节目中也会提到最近现实中那位“美国出生的教皇”所引发的舆论回响,从中对照出Conclave所描绘的制度困境与文化裂缝。在一个讲求现代化的时代,信仰、怀疑、服从与转变之间的冲突从未停止,反而愈加微妙。在这集播客,我们也借着Conclave,用元视角反思了我们几个主播过去几年的信仰和布道。 In this episode of Cyberpink, we discuss the 2024 film Conclave — a story set in the aftermath of a pope’s death, centered on the secretive process of electing his successor. Directed by Edward Berger and starring Ralph Fiennes, the film offers a rare look inside the Vatican’s cloistered world: backroom deals, power games, hidden truths, and the way institutions shape — and consume — the individuals within them. Starting with the film, we move into a broader conversation about the structure of the Catholic Church: how it uses sacredness to maintain order, and how tradition often suppresses the possibility of reform. The protagonists in Conclave are not just religious figures — they are deeply political beings. And those who remain on the margins of the screen — nuns, aides, staff — carry the film’s quietest, yet most intense emotional weight. We also touch on the recent real-world election of the first U.S.-born pope and the media discourse surrounding it, drawing parallels with Conclave's portrayal of institutional tension and cultural fracture. In a world increasingly shaped by modernity, the conflicts between faith, doubt, obedience, and transformation have only grown more intricate. We also used Conclave as a lens to go meta, to reflect our journeys as long-term podcasters, examining our beliefs and evangelism over the past few years. 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 — Conclave电影本影也没想到自己会因教皇方济各逝世而意外获得现实相关性,成为2025年最火的电影 03:50 — 现实中的美国出生的教宗Pope Leo XIV承认在真正的Conclave前也看了电影 04:40 — 什么是“Conclave”?拉丁语意为“上锁的房间”——一种自13世纪起流传至今的选教皇仪式 06:15 — 黑烟与白烟:那些宣布教皇当选的古老烟雾信号,也曾锁门限食以逼出结果 11:30 — 初观感:神秘又幽默,教廷政治竟然有点像校园食堂地缘政治问题?主角Lawrence像一个疲惫又需要收拾烂摊子的VP 19:13 — Lawrence想辞职,前任教皇说他是个“农场经理”而非“牧羊人”——讨论教皇制度管理与灵性角色的张力。疲惫娇娃进入meta状态,反思自己过去几年的信仰和布教 30:30 — 影片中Lawrence的一句台词引发共鸣:“确定性是团结的大敌,是宽容的死敌”——它如何映射当代的分裂与政治疲劳?疲惫娇娃继续meta 50:00 — 位关键女性角色:Sister Agnes,一个在结构之外但洞察深刻的“隐身者”。以及为什么我们要反复说女性角色 01:03:10 — 大结局讨论:一个意想不到的人选成为教皇,我们如何解读这个“神迹”。 00:00 — The film Conclave likely never expected to gain such sudden real-world relevance after the death of Pope Francis, becoming one of the most talked-about movies of 2025 03:50 — In real life, the newly elected U.S.-born Pope Leo XIV admitted he watched Conclave before the actual conclave took place 04:40 — What is a "Conclave"? The term comes from Latin, meaning “a locked room” — referring to the centuries-old papal election ritual that dates back to the 13th century 06:15 — Black smoke or white smoke: the ancient visual signals used to announce papal election results. In earlier centuries, cardinals were even locked in and given limited food to force a decision 11:30 — First impressions: the film is mysterious yet funny. The political dynamics of the Vatican strangely resemble cafeteria geopolitics. The main character, Lawrence, comes across like an exhausted VP cleaning up institutional messes 19:13 — Lawrence wants to resign. The previous Pope calls him a “farm manager” rather than a “shepherd” — sparking a discussion on the tension between institutional maintenance and spiritual leadership. The hosts go meta, reflecting on their own relationship to faith and public engagement in recent years 30:30 — A line from Lawrence resonates: “Certainty is the great enemy of unity, the deadly enemy of tolerance.” The hosts explore how this speaks to contemporary political polarization and collective fatigue — and continue the meta reflection 50:00 — A key female character is introduced: Sister Agnes, a perceptive “invisible” figure operating outside the official structure. The hosts dig into why they keep returning to the role of women in the film 01:03:10 — Final act discussion: an unexpected figure is elected Pope — how do we interpret this so-called “miracle”? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Inside the Politics of the Papal Conclave – The New York Times (May 4, 2025) * How a Film About the Pope Became Reality – The New York Times (April 21, 2025) * Campaigning for the Papacy? Vatican Grapples With the Unspoken – The New York Times (April 28, 2025) 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助
063 | 立夏氛围检查:疲惫娇娃闯入东京星战庆典 Vibe Check: Crashing Tokyo’s Star Wars Celebration【聊了什么 The What】 这个四月,疲惫娇娃被邀请去了大城市东京参加两年一度的星战庆典。 这个地表浓度最高的星战粉丝盛会是一个持续了三十多年的文化现象,也是一个迪士尼的商业帝国和星战的跨越多个时代的原生粉丝文化的结合,这次的日本庆典是近几届中规模最大的一届,也在各种细节中致敬了日本的历史和文化。 我们除了在红毯上采访到了巨多明星以外,还有特别多见闻需要和几个女的们yap yap. 所以这期是一集氛围闲聊,主要聊聊阿花和一芳在庆典中的见闻。我们聊了星战粉丝群体的多元化和演变、庆典现场的独特氛围和活动安排、庆典中的重磅官宣(新电影、瑞恩·高斯林等等!)、与《曼达洛人》和《安多》主创及主演的采访体验、星战IP与日本文化的交融等等…… 另外这一期的许多提到的和明星们的面对面采访视频都在我们的同名小红书发布了。请大家在小红书上关注我们!《安多》第二季也开播了!欢迎大家点这里回顾我们聊第一季的节目! In mid-April, CyberPink was invited to Tokyo Japan, to attend Star Wars Celebration! It was our first time at this iconic gathering of all fans across galaxies, but Star Wars Celebration has been around since the late 1990s. It’s a testament to the multi-generational and organic nature of being a Star Wars fan, but also goes to show the commercial prowess of Disney (which acquired LucasFilm in 2012). This year’s celebration in Japan was the largest in recent years and paid tribute to Japanese history and culture in many subtle ways. Your favorite gals got to join the press line and interview your favorite stars, but that’s not all! In this episode, the gals who went spill the tea with the other gals on what exactly went down at Star Wars Celebration 2025. We talk about the evolving diversity of the Star Wars fanbase (and movies), the unique vibe and programming at the event, major announcements (New movies! New shows! Ryan Gosling!), what it was like interviewing the creators and stars of The Mandalorian and Andor, how the Star Wars IP merges with Japanese culture, and more… Additionally, many of the face-to-face interview videos with celebrities mentioned in this episode have been posted on our Xiaohongshu account with the same name. Please follow us on Xiaohongshu! Andor Season 2 has also premiered! Feel free to click here to revisit our episode where we discussed Season 1! [alt text] 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡: * 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户:https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:01:10 为什么会被邀请参加?星战庆典背景 00:02:30 星战粉丝群体的演变与自我认知 00:04:23 参与者非常多元化,各个年龄层都有;场地巨大,分为不同展台和舞台;光剑到处都是 00:16:30 “妈妈我们出息了”之红毯采访体验:我们和所有大明星们都聊了一遍天 00:20:06 高司令要进入星战宇宙了 00:27:00 近年星战故事的焦点变化:不再只关注原力/绝地,普通角色戏份增加,《安多》和《曼达洛人》中的风暴兵也很可怕。从“将军的故事”到“生灵的故事” 00:31:07 Pedro Pascal(佩德罗·帕斯卡)采访:关于他的“守护者”角色(《最后生还者》和《曼达洛人》) 00:35:25 回到日本之行与星战文化交融;文化挪用与互相启发/融合的讨论,中国所扮演的角色 00:47:47 迪士尼的商业模式:虽然看起来是粉丝主导的聚会,背后是迪士尼强大的垂直整合商业帝国。通过提供沉浸式体验和产品,巩固其地位 00:50:10 粉丝选择哪个IP是购买选择,是为多巴胺和身份买单 00:53:00 海登·克里斯滕森与安纳金:作为“美强惨”杨过,在东亚女性粉丝中非常受欢迎 00:57:15 下届星战庆典预告:2025年星战50周年,将在美国洛杉矶举办 00:01:10 How did we get invited? What is Star Wars Celebration? 00:02:30 The evolution of the Star Wars fandom and self-perception 00:04:23 Fans from all ages and across the world attended; the venue was massive and divided into various stages, booths, and exhibition space; Lightsabers were everywhere 00:16:30 “Mom, we made it!” Red carpet interview experience: We got to chat with all the major stars 00:20:06 Ryan Gosling is joining the Star Wars universe 00:27:00 The shift in Star Wars storytelling focus: No longer just about the Force or Jedi — more screen time for everyday characters. Even stormtroopers have personalities. From “stories of generals” to “stories of ordinary beings” 00:31:07 Interview with Pedro Pascal: On playing “protector” roles 00:35:25 Return to the fusion of Japan and Star Wars culture; Cultural appropriation vs. mutual inspiration and the role China plays 00:47:47 Even though the celebration feels fan-led, it’s backed by Disney’s powerful vertically integrated empire. Through immersive experiences and products, they’re reinforcing their dominance 00:50:10 Choosing a fandom/IP is like a purchase decision: It’s about paying for dopamine — and identity 00:53:00 Hayden Christensen as Anakin: As the “beautiful, strong, tragic” type, he's especially beloved by East Asian women fans 00:57:15 Teaser for the next Star Wars Celebration: 2025 will mark the 50th anniversary of Star Wars, and the celebration will be held in Los Angeles, USA 【拓展链接 The Links】 Star Wars Celebrations 官网 《安多》第一季的节目! 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助