vol.60 和伦敦演员聊聊跨种族关系

本期《日落烩面》，我们邀请到常驻伦敦的青年演员 Liam Bull，聊聊他在英国默丘里剧院（Mercury Theatre, Colchester）原创戏剧 《Swallow the Lake》 中一人分饰三角的全新挑战。该剧由 Tassa Deparis 编剧，Yasmin Hafesji 执导，今年十月首演——故事从 Joanna 和 Joseph 搬到埃塞克斯小镇开始，在一场看似平静的晚宴上，一句“本不该说出的话”，揭开了旧日的伤口。

《Swallow the Lake》在童年与成年之间穿梭，讲述了关于记忆、归属与跨种族关系的故事，也提出了一个尖锐的问题：“一段终生的友谊，能否在孕育它的国家裂缝中幸存？” 剧作触及英国社会中关于身份、文化与政治的微妙裂痕，让“跨种族关系”的议题不再抽象，而是情感上触手可及。

Liam 讲述了他的表演之路：从被鼓励的少年，到“自录试镜—签约 Delaney Grey—闯荡剧场”的旅程；也分享了他在排练现场如何以开放与学习的姿态面对关于“种族与归属”的对话。从东方主义的银幕呈现、到到性化的种族标签，再到如何在亲密关系中保持共情与平等。爱是否需要一份择偶“清单”？多元是否真的带来活力？本期，我们在剧场与现实之间，重新审视身份、欲望与理解。

【嘉宾】

Liam Bull：常驻伦敦的青年演员，在Swallow the Lake中一人分饰三角

【主播】

Zoe：戏剧博士在读，喜欢剧场中齐心协力的精神。

铎铎：电影市场打工人，实名反对racial fetish！

【时间轴】

00:09 跨种族题材在英国生长：

• 文艺作品/社媒上的跨种族关系：东方主义？刻板印象博流量？
• 性化的种族：约会市场与传统性别期待

04:45 Swallow the Lake and Liam’s Story

• What is Swallow the Lake about? grief, the evolution of their relationship, and race as a recurring undercurrent
• Jouney of acting: supportive teachers, self-tape audition, Delaney Grey, and the competitive theatre scene
• Philosophy on auditions: 'You don’t go to get a job; you go to do a job.' (Bryan Cranston)
• Portray multiple characters in one show: costumes, hairstyles, voice modulation, and 1990s–2000s period details.

16:52 About the Production

• The Essex setting: duality of small-town warmth and confinement.
• Contemporary resonance: rising nationalism and visible flags in the UK evoke questions about immigration and diversity.
• Power of theatre: pushing one to be politically and culturally engaged
• Moments of racial or identity tension during rehearsals? learning mindset | balancing political themes with authentic human portrayal

25:16 On Interracial Relationships

• Mirrors Jo and Joanna’s evolving bond — not strictly romantic
• Mature relationships balance empathy and awareness — neither “colorblind” nor over-fixated on difference.
• Stay open and empathetic; let the affected person take the lead in sensitive discussions.
• Between fetishization and equal treatment: to be seen a person, not a racial category
• Should race/culture be on a 'checklist'?Love is rarely rational

34:51 UK & Race Today

• From Essex to London — northern British accents, LGBTQ+ inclusion, and multiculturalism?
• The creative community’s openness to difference
• Can diversity bring vitality, ideas, and empathy?

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