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本期嘉宾>>> Bowrain（本名 Tine Grgurevič）
Bowrain兼具作曲家、钢琴家以及唱作人的身份，在先锋爵士、流行与电子音乐之间自由游走，创造出介于秩序与即兴之间的声音景观。在极简与丰盈之间呼吸，旋律结构精密、声景层次丰富，营造出沉浸式的听觉体验——尤其在现场演出中，表现出极强的空间感与感染力。从欧洲到亚洲的旅程中，他持续探索音乐与空间的关系，探讨迁徙、身份与根源的概念——让每一次演出都成为一次重新认识“在场”的体验，始终关乎流动、联结与行进。
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“I started as a pianist and studied classical music, and then studied jazz music as in improvisation in Rotterdam and Amsterdam, originally I am from Slovenia. And then I was a jazz pianist for quite some time, I think around 2012 when I realized that I have to go into my own direction, jazz didn't speak to me anymore at that time, and I also came up with this name, Bowrain, and then released the first album. 2012 I started, but then the album came out in 2014."
"我最初是钢琴家，学习古典音乐，后来在鹿特丹和阿姆斯特丹研习爵士乐即兴演奏。我来自斯洛文尼亚。之后我担任爵士钢琴师相当长一段时间，大约在2012年意识到必须开辟自己的道路。那时爵士乐已无法打动我，于是我创立了‘Bowrain’这个艺名，并发行了首张专辑。2012年我开始创作，但专辑直到2014年才正式发行。"
"It's always very challenging, because every concert situation, it brings you a lot of challenges. For instance, a few days ago, coming alone to the venue when you don't know the sound of the space, you don't know the character of the piano, you don't know the sound engineer."
“每次演出都充满挑战，因为每场音乐会都会带来诸多考验。比如几天前，独自来到场地现场时，你既不熟悉空间的声学特性，也不了解钢琴的音色表现，更不认识现场的音响师。”
"I'm someone that, of course, cannot live without doing what I do, doing music. Like this is my daily food, and I'm not good if I don't do it. And also someone that likes to save the world. And also I am someone that likes to enjoy food."
“我是一个离不开音乐的人，音乐就是我的日常食粮，不做音乐我就活不下去。同时我也是个热衷于拯救世界的人，所以对社会议题很感兴趣。另外，我还是个享受美食的人。”
"'Million Homes' album deals in its idea, deals with the concept or issue of migration, issue of 'home', what is a 'home'? It's such a valid thing, you know? It's such an important thing that we, as, let's say, a privileged me, privileged white European. I have a very steady home, I have good family, but some people don't have this."
“《百万家园》这张专辑探讨的正是迁徙的命题，探讨“家园”的本质——何为“家”？这问题很切中要害，对吧？对我们这些享有特权的人而言，比如我这个特权白人欧洲人，这问题至关重要。我拥有稳定的家园，拥有美满的家庭，但有些人却没有这么幸运。”
"'Million Steps' is a nice, unformal name. It's nothing too serious, but I had to do a million steps to come here, even more than a million. It’s a long journey, from Slovenia to China."
“《百万步》是个挺好的非正式名字。没什么特别深奥的含义，但确实是我走了百万步才来到这里，甚至不止百万步。从斯洛文尼亚到中国，这段旅程很漫长。”
"In terms of the sound, there will be electronics, there will be voice, and there will be also beats. Sometimes my music is very rhymical and energetic, and also danceable."
“在声音方面，既有电子音效，也有人声演唱，同时还有节奏律动。有时我的音乐充满韵律感和活力，也极具舞动性。”
“(My music is) Melodic. Emotional. Experimental. Physical."
“（我的音乐是）旋律的。情感的。实验性的。身体的。”
"But performance is so exciting, and it's also very hard because sometimes it's hard to come back to reality after a performance. Like it's so intense, and then there is so much adrenaline, and then it's hard to drop it down and do the normal stuff."
“但表演是如此令人兴奋，同时也充满挑战——有时演出结束后很难回归现实。那种体验太过激烈，肾上腺素飙升，之后要平复下来做日常琐事就变得很艰难。”
"It's very challenging how to think big, how to think why and how to wait, how to be able to be patient.
I think patience is such a strong value that I normally don't have. I have learned this job made me be patient because it's not a secure job you always wait."
“如何胸怀大志、如何思考缘由、如何等待时机、如何保持耐心——这些都极具挑战性。我认为耐心是一种强大的品质，而这恰恰是我通常所缺乏的。这份工作教会了我耐心，因为它并不稳定，你总是在等待。”
采访>>> 金媛媛
编辑/剪辑>>> 罗佳
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