071 | 纽约折叠:一座社区花园的死与生 The Death and Life of Elizabeth Street Garden美轮美换 The American Roulette

071 | 纽约折叠:一座社区花园的死与生 The Death and Life of Elizabeth Street Garden

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【聊了什么】

一座占地仅三分之一街区的小花园,为何能让纽约的政客们冲突、登上纽约时报、还惊动马丁·斯科塞斯和罗伯特·德尼罗等名流亲自站台?

2025年11月,刚刚当选纽约市长的马姆达尼还没上任,即将离任的Eric Adams就抢先签署行政令,将伊丽莎白街花园永久划为公园用地——这被外界解读为一枚"政治毒丸"。这座花园的命运,折射出纽约乃至美国城市治理中的一个核心的矛盾:我们到底应该建更多房子,还是保护现有社区?谁有权决定一个街区的未来?

本期节目,我们邀请到纽约城市规划师罗雨翔老师,从一座社区花园的十年争议出发,聊聊纽约政治中那些看不见的博弈。罗雨翔此前也做过两期纽约相关的节目《纽约的房价到底为什么这么高》和《纽约地铁为什么这么破》,两期播客都发布在我们的友台《选修课》上,也欢迎大家前去收听,并关注这档播客。如果你对这期节目内容感兴趣,欢迎购买罗雨翔的新书《创造大都会——纽约空间与制度观察》,国内各大平台均有销售,海外用户请使用此链接购买。

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【时间轴】

03:45 马姆达尼当选与Eric Adams的"政治毒丸"

05:40 伊丽莎白街花园的前世今生

09:40 社区的阶层分化:SOHO富人区vs唐人街低收入社区

12:57 花园之争背后的市议会选战

16:01 公园异化法:为什么正式公园用地几乎无法改变

21:17 Adams给马姆达尼的台阶?

23:41 社区规划与NIMBY现象

30:24 政府的复杂角色:豪华公寓与保障房的平衡术

35:04 Eric Adams的另一面:区划法改革与垃圾革命

42:31 纽约的小政府传统

51:14 Robert Moses vs Jane Jacobs

54:25 为Robert Moses翻案?丰裕议程与当代回响

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小华:媒体人

罗雨翔:美国注册城市规划师,哈佛大学与伦敦政治经济学院建筑与经济双硕士。现居纽约,参与以及主持北美20余地区的地产开发、区域经济政策与公共领域投资项目。

【 What We Talked About】

How can a tiny garden—barely a third of a city block—spark political battles in New York, make headlines in the New York Times, and rally celebrities like Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro to its defense?

In November 2025, just days after Zohran Mamdani won the New York City mayoral race but before he could take office, outgoing Mayor Eric Adams signed an executive order permanently designating Elizabeth Street Garden as parkland—a move widely seen as a "political poison pill." The fate of this garden reflects a core tension in urban governance, not just in New York but across America: Should we build more housing, or protect existing communities? And who gets to decide the future of a neighborhood?

In this episode, we're joined by Yuxiang Luo, an urban planner based in New York, to explore ten years of controversy surrounding a single community garden—and the invisible power struggles that shape New York City politics. Yuxiang has previously appeared on two episodes about New York: "Why Is Housing in New York So Expensive?" and "Why Is the New York Subway So Run-Down?", both available on our sister podcast Mo Electives (选修课). We encourage you to check them out and follow that show. If you're interested in this episode's topics, consider picking up Yuxiang's new book, Creating the Metropolis: Observations on Space and Institutions in New York, available on major platforms in China. Overseas readers can purchase it here.

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【Timeline】

03:45 Mamdani's Election and Eric Adams' "Political Poison Pill"

05:40 The History of Elizabeth Street Garden

09:40 Class Divide: Wealthy SoHo vs. Low-Income Chinatown

12:57 The City Council Race Behind the Garden Battle

16:01 Parkland Alienation Law: Why Official Parkland Is Nearly Untouchable

21:17 An Off-Ramp for Mamdani?

23:41 Community Planning and NIMBYism

30:24 The Government's Balancing Act: Luxury Condos vs. Affordable Housing

35:04 The Other Side of Eric Adams: Zoning Reform and the Trash Revolution

42:31 New York's Small-Government Tradition

51:14 Robert Moses vs. Jane Jacobs

54:25 Rehabilitating Robert Moses? The Abundance Agenda and Its Echoes Today

【Who We Are】

The American Roulette is a podcast dedicated to helping the Chinese-speaking community understand fast-changing U.S. politics.

Our Hosts and Guests:

小华 (Xiao Hua): Journalist, political observer

Luo Yuxiang: U.S. Registered Urban Planner, holding dual master's degrees in Architecture and Economics from Harvard University and the London School of Economics. Currently residing in New York, he has participated in and led over 20 real estate development, regional economic policy, and public domain investment projects across North America.


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展开Show Notes
说叄道肆
说叄道肆
2025.12.25
主播能不能出一期关于美国斩杀线的内容,最近网上的那些言论感觉太绝对且对立了,不知道是真是假的。
Will-_17Mv:虽然有斩杀线但还是世界最多人想移民的国家
狲狲:https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/696588f025beb7512c8ce577 有岚师🧐
HD478695x
HD478695x
2025.12.25
美轮美奂和美丽坚果,很有意思,珍惜。
Marfa_cjBU
Marfa_cjBU
2025.12.25
这个花园真的不错 经常连座位都找不太到 上次走了之后马上有人坐过来了
鹏飞_2mP7
鹏飞_2mP7
2025.12.27
58:39 《成为官僚》有中译版的
也也_0V5M
也也_0V5M
2025.12.31
06:25 19年的时候看了《Modern Love》这部剧以后我还专门去这个花园打卡了剧里的场景
山和佳
山和佳
2025.12.30
06:34 可否给个“纽约地铁为什么破烂”那集的链接呀?多谢多谢
RobinSwift25:https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6858681e7dd7cf65661beac5 是这个,一个叫《选修课》的播客节目,也非常好。
山和佳:多谢多谢
哈哈仔
哈哈仔
2025.12.29
06:42 小年轻,白女白男……
BIGHEAD6020
BIGHEAD6020
2025.12.28
何不食肉糜的讨论
有幸住在 Elizabeth Street Garden 边上。我好爱它,经常会去坐。先马明天听!
ly-ouch
ly-ouch
2025.12.25
忽左忽右和选修课的嘉宾啊
2010年世博会美国馆有一个短片“花园”…
李叨叨
李叨叨
2025.12.29
搜了一下这个花园,确实很美
阿白_oxyv
阿白_oxyv
2025.12.26
本人就是住在纽约高级公寓的affordable unit里,作为受益者我只能说 希望这种楼多一些 ,再多一些。这种program比集中式廉租房好,后者只能形成破窗效应 对谁都不好
00:00 谢谢。
独步91
独步91
2025.12.25
小板凳坐好了!