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91【聊了什么The What】
这期节目，我们聊了新片《Hamnet》：一部改编自 Maggie O’Farrell 同名小说的故事，并聊了聊它为什么能让人哭到崩溃（或完全哭不出来但仍然狠狠爱上），聊到它那种带点神秘主义、符号化的拍法如何制造出希腊悲剧式的宣泄/净化。
我们也不可避免的想起了之前聊过的Wifedom。这是另一个文学巨擘榨干身边女性的故事吗？还是他讲述了一个超脱语境、触及人类隽永生死问题的经典悲剧？把女性与自然、草药、预言、女巫气质连在一起，是一种温柔的赋权，还是另一种更古老的陷阱？艺术究竟是在表演痛苦，还是在替人类提供一种“活下去的解释”？归根结底，在2025年重拍莎士比亚是很需要勇气的；赵婷交出的答卷你们满意吗？
In this episode, we discuss our favorite nepo baby Chloé Zhao’s new feature film Hamnet, adapted from the novel of the same name by Maggie O’Farrell. We explore why it can make you cry uncontrollably (or not cry at all and still fall deeply in love with it), and how its mystical, symbolic filmmaking evokes a Greek tragedy-like catharsis.
It is hard not to draw comparison with Wifedom, which we’ve talked about in the past. Is this yet another story of a literary giant draining the life out of the women around him? Or is it a timeless tragedy that transcends context to speak to the eternal human questions of life and death? When women are linked with nature, herbs, prophecy, and witch-like qualities—is it a gentle form of empowerment, or an older, more insidious trap? Is art merely performing pain, or is it offering humanity a way to keep going? Ultimately, remaking Shakespeare in 2025 takes courage—did Chloé Zhao deliver?
【时间轴 The When】
00:02:22 《Hamnet》、演员阵容、TIFF 口碑
00:04:46 四个女的的初印象（以及不同的哭晕程度）
00:13:37 文学巨擘背后被隐身的女人：与《Wifedom》的文脉相通
00:21:10 除了审判隐身的丈夫，或许我们还能讲点别的故事
00:29:18 自然叙事：女性/土地的连结与争议
00:37:16 Le Guin、女巫叙事与男权结构的回声
00:48:18 “To be or not to be”：没看懂也没关系
00:59:50 结尾的半圆镜头：为什么人类要讲故事
01:06:16 “人生三苦”：理解痛苦不等于失去情感
00:02:22 Chloé Zhao’s Hamnet, cast, and TIFF reception
00:04:46 First impressions from four women (and varying levels of emotional breakdown)
00:13:37 The invisible woman behind the literary giant: connections to Wifedom
00:21:10 Beyond judging the hidden husband—maybe there are other stories we can tell
00:29:18 Nature narratives: the contested link between women and lan
00:37:16 Le Guin, witch storytelling, and echoes of patriarchy
00:48:18 “To be or not to be”: it’s okay if you don’t understand it
00:59:50 The final half-circle shot: why humans tell stories
01:06:16 The “three sufferings” of life: understanding pain doesn’t mean feeling less
【拓展链接 The Links】
- Hamnet: A Novel of the Plague
- Hamnet Book Club
- Wifedom
- The New Yorker对赵婷的采访
- Oh Brother! The Jupes Get Shakespearean
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