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0Nearly a year on from Alternative Roots, Ming Strike reconnects with two artists from the festival, Bunga and Jade. Starting from their experience of taking part in Alternative Roots, we talk through what has shifted in the past year — from identity, craft and embodiment to migration, belonging and community. Some things have developed, some remain unresolved, and some have quietly moved somewhere new.
從去年小明拆台主辦的 Alternative Roots 藝術節到現在已經過去了快一年，本期我們訪問了兩位參與藝術節的藝術家 Bunga 和 Jade，從去年參與藝術節的經驗出發，一路聊到這些日子的變化，也分享了她們對身份、craft、embodiment、migration 與 community 的思考。有些掙扎，有些發展，有些停滯，也有些慢慢長出了新的方向。
来宾简介/Guest intro：
Bunga Yuridespita
Bunga Yuridespita is an Indonesian artist based in London, working across wearable sculpture, installation, painting, sound, and performance. Her practice explores the relationship between body, space, identity, and perception.
Bunga Yuridespita 是來自印尼、現居倫敦的藝術家，創作橫跨可穿戴雕塑、裝置、繪畫、聲音與表演。她的作品關注身體、空間、身份與感知之間的關係。
Jade Johnson
Jade Johnson is a UK-born artist and designer of Indigenous Taiwanese (Amis) heritage. Her practice centres craft, heritage revival, community engagement, and intergenerational connection across illustration, textiles, ceramics, and workshop-based work.
Jade Johnson 是一位在英國出生長大的藝術家與設計工作者，擁有台灣阿美族背景。她的創作關注工藝、文化傳承、社群參與與跨世代連結，形式橫跨插畫、布料、陶與工作坊實踐。
本期主持/Host
Howl, Taiwanese performance worker based in the UKHowl，現居英國的台灣藝術工作者
Mengting, Contemporary performance researcher and maker currently living in LondonMengting，當代表演研究與創作者，現居倫敦
這期我們聊了……/ In this episode…
03:30Bunga’s practice journey: from Indonesia to London, and from painting/sculpture into wearable sculpture and performanceBunga 的創作背景：從印尼到倫敦，從 painting / sculpture 走到 wearable sculpture 與 performance
06:10How Jade’s practice moved from illustration into craft, heritage revival, and creating with communityJade 的創作如何從插畫走向 craft、heritage revival 與「和社群一起共創」
08:55Batik as a communal craft: technique, labour, and the question of what actually counts as batikBatik 作為一種集體工藝：從新加坡駐村經驗談技法、勞動與「什麼才算 batik？」
10:40Nongkrong — from a working-class everyday practice of hanging out to a term borrowed by the art worldNongkrong：從勞工階級的日常閒聚，到被藝術圈借用的概念
25:20Bunga revisits Alternative Roots: mirrors, the body, sound, and how wearable sculpture gets “activated” in live spaceBunga 回看 Alternative Roots：鏡面、身體、聲音與 wearable sculpture 如何在現場被「啟動」
32:00Jade on Alternative Roots: what new meanings emerge when work is placed in an ESEA exhibition and performance context?Jade 回看 Alternative Roots：當作品被放進 ESEA 的展演空間裡，會長出什麼新的意義？
36:20Why Alternative Roots mattered: physically bringing together ESEA artists who are often otherwise scattered across different spacesAlternative Roots 為什麼重要：把原本分散的 ESEA 藝術家真正放進同一個空間
39:30Jade revisits performative essentialism: what happens when Indigenous traditions are inherited mainly through colonial documentation?Jade 再談 performative essentialism：當原住民傳統主要透過殖民書寫被留下來，後來的人如何理解自己？
58:40Bunga on rebuilding an artistic life in London: migrating in her thirties, returning to school, and navigating visas and everyday survivalBunga 在倫敦重新建立藝術生涯：三十多歲移居、重新讀書、簽證與生活現實
01:08:05Mixedness, British passports, language, and the question of “where are you really from?” — Jade on layered identity and belongingMixedness、British passport、語言與「你到底是哪裡人？」—— Jade 談多重身份與 belonging
01:20:10From Taiwan and Indonesia to the UK: when “home” is no longer one place, but something made of relationships, memory and labour從台灣、印尼到英國：當「家」不只是一個地理位置，而是由關係、記憶與工作共同構成
01:27:30Looking ahead to what’s next — while also reflecting on the plans, developments, and moments that had already quietly unfolded by the time this episode was released未來的展望與接下來的計畫——也回頭看看哪些事情已經在這集上線前悄悄發生、推進，甚至告一段落。
Ming Strike is a monthly podcast, independently produced by ESEA arts practitioners mostly based in the UK.小明拆台 Ming Strike 由幾位現居海外的當代表演實踐者獨立製作。
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