Can growth go green?

For decades, industrialization meant a trade-off: growth versus environmental damage. Today, China is exploring a different path—where development and nature reinforce each other. Known as ecological civilization, this vision is reshaping conservation and urban life. In this episode, we unpack what it means and how it connects to daily life, through a conversation with Wang Zhihe, Director of the Institute for Postmodern Development of China. On the show: Niu Honglin, Yushan & Yushun