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0Hello everyone, De'Graft here with your Thursday
大家好，德格拉夫特带来周四的
BBC Newsround bulletin.
BBC 少儿新闻《Newsround》简报。
Coming up today, we find out how a
今天节目里，我们来看看
social media ban in Australia is going,
澳大利亚社交媒体禁令执行得怎样，
and we've got all the latest footy news,
还有最新足球消息，
including an epic win for Villa.
包括维拉的一场精彩胜利。
But first
不过先说第一条。
up, the UK government has spent the last
英国政府过去 12 周一直在研究，
12 weeks looking at whether there should be
是否应该对儿童使用社交媒体
a ban or new restrictions on social media
设禁令或新限制。
for children. Just this week,
就在本周，网络安全大臣
the Online Safety Minister joined us on the
来到我们的沙发上，
sofa to answer your questions.
回答了大家的问题。
Now we're connecting with young people in Australia,
现在我们连线澳大利亚的年轻人，
where a ban has been in place for
那里一项禁令已经实施了
nearly six months.
将近六个月。
Good morning everyone, take a seat.
大家早上好，请坐。
So hello Australia from the UK.
英国向澳大利亚问好。
Hello. It's morning for us here.
你好。我们这里是早上。
It's about eight o 'clock in the morning.
现在大约早上八点。
What time is it over there? It's about
你们那边几点了？
4.30 in the afternoon here so everyone's
这里大约下午四点半，
finished school. Today we're linking up with Australia's
所以大家都放学了。
version of Newsround.
今天我们连线澳大利亚版《Newsround》。
Behind the News has been following the ban
《Behind the News》一直在关注这项禁令，
since it came into effect last December.
从去年 12 月生效以来都是如此。
It's a world first law that has a
这是全球首个这样的法律，
lot of other countries paying attention.
很多其他国家都在关注。
From Manchester, these 12 to 13 year olds
在曼彻斯特，这些 12 到 13 岁的孩子
have plenty of questions about how the ban
有很多问题想问，
is working in Australia.
想知道禁令在澳大利亚效果如何。
And BTN presenter Nat is standing by in
BTN 主持人 Nat 已在阿德莱德准备好回答。
Adelaide ready to answer them.
These students have been living with the ban
这些学生已经和禁令一起生活
for about six months now and basically overnight
大约六个月了。
meant that children under 16 could no longer
基本上是一夜之间，
use social media, or at least that's the
16 岁以下儿童就不能再
idea. Should we kick off?
使用社交媒体了，至少规定是这样。
我们开始吧？
Sounds good. What were your first thoughts on
听起来不错。你们一开始
the ban and how have they changed?
怎么看这项禁令？后来想法变了吗？
My first thoughts on the ban were pretty
我最开始对这项禁令的看法
negative about it.
挺负面的。
You don't need an account to access certain
访问某些社交媒体时
social medias like YouTube and TikTok.
比如 YouTube 和 TikTok，
不一定需要账号。
So they could have put more thought into
所以我觉得他们执行禁令前
it before they executed the ban.
本可以想得更周全。
Even on Snapchat, there's an age verification face
就算在 Snapchat 上，
scan, I think. It's pretty easy to bypass
好像也有人脸年龄验证。
it. So there are ways around the ban.
但它挺容易绕过去。
所以还是有办法避开禁令。
Yeah, that seems to be what a lot
是的，很多年轻人也告诉我们，
of young people have reported to us,
这些验证方式其实很容易绕过。
is that the verification methods are quite easy
Isabella，你怎么看？
to bypass. Isabella, what do you think of
如果这样想，
that? If you think of it like that,
这项禁令就有点没意义，
the ban seems a bit pointless because if
因为如果大家还是能绕过去，就好像他们做了那么多工作
you're still going to be able to get
结果白忙一场。
around it, it's a bit like they just
did all that work for nothing.
There's honestly no point because then it just
说实话没什么用，
means they've probably wasted a lot of money
那只意味着他们花了很多钱，
in creating all the systems to make the
去建立这些系统来实施禁令，
ban, but obviously teenagers, they'll be able to
但青少年嘛，
figure out anything. If you were to redo
总能想出办法。
the ban, how would you make it to
如果让你们重新设计这项禁令，
stop children getting around it?
你会怎么做，
才能阻止孩子绕过去？
Probably not being under -16s and just have
也许不要只按 16 岁以下来管，
a lot more filters and checks.
而是设置更多过滤
和检查机制。
They should review videos online more instead of
他们应该更多审核网上视频，
just letting it post straight away.
而不是直接让内容发布。
I reckon if they put more thought into
我觉得如果他们在验证方式上想得更周到，
the verification things,
that would have done them so much good
效果会好很多，
because that's how majority of the people have
因为大多数人就是这样
gotten around the ban.
绕过禁令的。
So has bullying changed at any point since
那么禁令实施后，
the ban? A lot of people have been
霸凌情况有没有变化？
kicked off of Snapchat so a lot of
很多人被 Snapchat 踢下线，
those people that did cyber bully on Snapchat
所以以前在 Snapchat 上网络霸凌的人，
are now doing it in real life and
现在转到现实生活里这样做，
I've seen there's been a lot more kids
我看到学校里更多孩子
at school that just look like they've just
看起来像经历了很多压力。
been through so much.
I not used to get teased but hopefully
我以前不会说被欺负，
playful banter about me not having social media
但会因为没有社交媒体
so all my friends would be like oh
被朋友开玩笑。
you don't have social media and kind of
他们会说，哦，
make fun of me for it but now
你没有社交媒体啊，
if nobody else has it then I feel
然后拿这个取笑我。
a lot more comfortable and not as left
但现在如果别人也没有，
out. So Nat a question for all of
我就觉得舒服多了，
the kids there should it be up to
也没有那么被排除在外。
the government to decide whether or not there
Nat，给那边所有孩子一个问题：
is a ban on social media for young
是否应该由政府决定，
people? I think it should be up to
年轻人能不能使用社交媒体？
the parents. I think it should be up
我觉得应该由父母决定。
to the kids and the parents.
我觉得应该由孩子和父母一起决定。
It's a parent's choice not the government's.
这是父母的选择，不是政府的。
Now I'm going to do the same thing
现在我也问这边同样的问题。
here. Do you think it should be up
你们觉得是否应该由政府决定
to the government to decide whether there's a
有没有禁令？是还是不是？
ban? Yes or no?
No. No.
不是。不是。
No. Personally I would say it's not up
不是。就我个人来说，
to the government because everyone's different so
我觉得这不该由政府决定，
it should be up to the parents because
因为每个人都不一样。
they know what's best for us.
应该由父母决定，
因为他们知道什么最适合我们。
Before we hang up a couple more questions
挂断前还有几个问题，
and they're not about social media.
不过不是关于社交媒体的。
Do you drink tea with every meal?
你们每顿饭都喝茶吗？
I tend to actually drink a lot of
我其实确实喝很多茶。
tea. Do you guys have like massive spiders,
你们那里有很大的蜘蛛吗，
like really big ones?
真的很大的那种？
Yeah. The biggest spider that I've seen,
有。我见过最大的蜘蛛，
it was probably the size of like those
大概有放茶杯的小盘子那么大。
plates that you put your like teacups on.
It's been amazing to link up with you
今天早上能和你们直播连线
live this morning and to talk about the
聊社交媒体禁令，
social media ban. Catch you later.
真的很棒。回头见。
Thank you, Ricky and the team for that
谢谢 Ricky 和团队，
great chat. Right, we're moving on now and
带来这场很棒的交流。好了，
there's been some big drama going on in
我们现在继续，足球世界里
the world of football. And it's all to
发生了一些大风波。
do with spying.
这都和侦察有关。
So joining me to explain all about it
来为我们解释这件事的
is Dale Johnson, the BBC's football expert.
是 Dale Johnson，BBC 足球专家。
Good morning, Dale. Good morning. Dale,
早上好，Dale。早上好。
what on earth has been going on?
Dale，到底发生了什么？
So this is all about the Championship playoff
这都和英冠升级附加赛
final, which is the match which was supposed
决赛有关，
to be between Middlesbrough and Southampton for a
原本这场比赛应该是米德尔斯堡
place in the Premier League. Now what happened
对南安普顿，
was Southampton sent a spy up to Middlesbrough's
争夺一个英超席位。
training ground to watch them preparing for the
事情是这样的：南安普顿派了一名侦察者
game. And you can see a picture of
去米德尔斯堡训练场，
this young man hiding behind a tree with
观察他们为比赛做准备。
a mobile phone and filming this training session.
你可以看到这名年轻男子躲在树后，
用手机拍摄训练课。
and he was caught, but he ran away,
他被发现了，但他跑掉了，
went into a toilet, changed his clothes and
进了厕所，换了衣服，
then got in his car and scarpered off.
然后上车溜走。
But it was found that he worked for
但后来查明他为南安普顿工作，
Southampton and Middlesbrough complained and this
米德尔斯堡提出了投诉，
is where we are with spying. So I'm
这就是这起侦察风波的来龙去脉。
assuming Southampton won't be playing in the playoffs.
所以我猜南安普顿
不会参加附加赛了？
So who will and when will they happen?
那谁会参赛？比赛何时进行？
That's right, yes. Southampton have been thrown out
没错。南安普顿已被逐出附加赛。
of the playoffs. It will now be Middlesbrough
现在将由米德尔斯堡
who will go to the match on Saturday.
参加周六的比赛。
They will play Hull City.
他们会对阵赫尔城。
So it will be Middlesbrough versus Hull City
所以对阵双方是米德尔斯堡vs赫尔城，
and the team that wins will play in
获胜球队下赛季征战英超。
the Premier League next season. I mean,
there'll be a few Southampton fans watching.
想必会有不少南安普顿球迷关注。
Who'll be asking, can Southampton appeal?
他们会问：南安普顿能上诉吗？
Yeah, so they already appealed.
是的，他们已经上诉了。
That was heard last night. They claimed that
上诉于昨晚审理。他们辩称
being thrown out of the playoffs was too
被逐出附加赛的处罚过重。
harsh of a punishment. But the authorities have
但官方驳回了上诉，
said no. It's true, it's the right decision.
认定判罚正确。
And so they won't be playing in the
因此他们无缘附加赛。
playoffs. It's an incredible story that a lot
这桩奇闻让很多人直呼离谱。
of people will be thinking, what on earth
但这并非足坛唯一热点。
has happened here? But it's not the only
football story that's going on.
We did have a huge night for Aston
昨晚对阿斯顿维拉而言意义非凡。
Villa last night.
What happened? Yeah, they won 3 -0.
战况如何？他们3-0完胜。
They played Freiburg in the final of the
欧联杯决赛对阵弗赖堡。
Europa League. It was the first European trophy
这是他们44年来
they've won for 44 years.
首座欧洲赛事奖杯。
They were 2 -0 up in the first
上半场他们便2-0领先。
half. A brilliant goal by Emi Buendia,
埃米·布恩迪亚轰出世界波，
right in the top corner.
皮球直挂死角。
And in the second half, Morgan Rodgers got
下半场摩根·罗杰斯锁定胜局，
the third goal. And the scenes of jubilation
打入第三球。伊斯坦布尔与维拉球迷
all over Istanbul and Aston Villa were absolutely
全城狂欢，
delighted to win that trophy.
球队捧杯欣喜若狂。
And there's a big parade today, isn't there?
今天还有夺冠游行，对吧？
That's right. When the players fly back into
没错。球员飞抵伯明翰后，
Birmingham, they're going to start in the city
将从市中心出发，
centre of Birmingham and an open -top bus
乘坐敞篷巴士
will go all around the streets.
全城巡游。
You'll have the fans lining the streets, cheering,
球迷沿街夹道欢呼、挥舞旗帜，
waving the flags, and they'll be celebrating with
与全队共庆夺冠。
all the players. And very, very quickly,
快速问一句，
how big of a deal is this for
这对维拉意义几何？
Aston Villa? Oh, I mean, they've already qualified
他们已凭英超前五锁定欧冠席位，
for the Champions League by finishing in the
top four of the Premier League, top five,
sorry. But now winning a trophy,
如今再添一座奖杯，
like I say, it's the first one in
正如我所说，44年首冠。
44 years. It's what all fans want to
这是所有球迷的心愿，
do and they'll get the chance to be
下赛季他们将和其他英格兰球队一样，
singing about this whole next season like other
尽情歌颂这份荣耀。
English clubs have. Well, thank you so much
非常感谢戴尔做客节目。
for joining us, Dale. And thank you guys
也感谢各位收看。
for watching. As always,
一如既往，
there's loads more over on the Newsround website.
Newsround官网还有更多内容。
So enjoy the rest of your day and
祝大家今日愉快，
we'll see you bright and early tomorrow. Bye, guys.
明天一早再见。各位拜拜。
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